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Random thoughts and comments. The first season is beautiful and the OST is excellent.
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Tencent had 2 character songs sung by well-known Chinese singers to mark the end of season.3; I'm going to miss you MDZS. It was a great three years^_^
Link: https://youtu.be/7eaMpbhOrfU
WWX's character song by Liu Yuning
And link: https://youtu.be/_tyEw4P02aI
LWJ's character song from season.3 by Ayunga
Link: https://youtu.be/7eaMpbhOrfU
WWX's character song by Liu Yuning
And link: https://youtu.be/_tyEw4P02aI
LWJ's character song from season.3 by Ayunga
"Stylistic translation"... I'm not sure what that means. Is it editing? And then they say "to make it easier for native English speakers to read"... And all the red flags are waving.
I've been sampling a lot of fan-translated danmei novels and to be brutally honest only 1-2 translators have the ability and/or experience to produce a comprehensible translation. Not talking about poetic language here, just a solid translation that isn't too messy.
Translation is one of those professions that is often misunderstood and frequently underestimated. Because it's an art, not a science, and so much depends on the translator's proficiency in the languages he/she is translating to and from. In addition to understanding the "soul of the language" which is something they don't teach you in school. Language doesn't come from a vacuum; it's an accumulation of a society/culture's beliefs/values/history. A word can be acceptable in English and incredibly offensive in Arabic because of the cultural connotations.
While I appreciate the efforts of fan translators, the majority of them don't possess the skills necessary for translation. All the debates and attacks on them seem pointless because in the end even they admit they're doing it for fun and in their free time. Though I do feel sorry for the author whose work they are translating. *winces*
I've been sampling a lot of fan-translated danmei novels and to be brutally honest only 1-2 translators have the ability and/or experience to produce a comprehensible translation. Not talking about poetic language here, just a solid translation that isn't too messy.
Translation is one of those professions that is often misunderstood and frequently underestimated. Because it's an art, not a science, and so much depends on the translator's proficiency in the languages he/she is translating to and from. In addition to understanding the "soul of the language" which is something they don't teach you in school. Language doesn't come from a vacuum; it's an accumulation of a society/culture's beliefs/values/history. A word can be acceptable in English and incredibly offensive in Arabic because of the cultural connotations.
While I appreciate the efforts of fan translators, the majority of them don't possess the skills necessary for translation. All the debates and attacks on them seem pointless because in the end even they admit they're doing it for fun and in their free time. Though I do feel sorry for the author whose work they are translating. *winces*
Title: Hóng bǎihé
Fandom: Mo Dao Zu Shi
Pairing: LWJ/WWX
Summary: Those who love you, leave flowers on your skin. You wait for his flower to bloom.
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/24223096
A short introspective piece. My first MDZS fic.
Fandom: Mo Dao Zu Shi
Pairing: LWJ/WWX
Summary: Those who love you, leave flowers on your skin. You wait for his flower to bloom.
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/24223096
A short introspective piece. My first MDZS fic.
Just finished watching ep.50 of CQl/TU.. Xiao Zhan's smile should be classified as a lethal weapon^_^
Reviews/thoughts coming up later.
Reviews/thoughts coming up later.
Title: asymptotic
Author: chinxe
Fandom: Módào Zǔshī - Mòxiāng Tóngxiù
Pairing: LWJ/WWX
Genre: Slash
Summary: The members of the Lan Clan have never been particularly well-known for their good judgement when it comes to matters of the heart. Which is why it should come as a surprise to no one when Lan Wangji falls in love with an actual ghost.
Warning: AU
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/17759762/chapters/41904701
This was written in the early days of MDZS fandom but it still stands up to being read today even with the live-action and season.2 of the anime. What is striking is that LWJ and WWX are still the same in terms of virtues and character flaws though their method of meeting and communication is different. Add A-Yuan and bunnies to the mix, with WQ's sharp tongue, and it's no surprise this is often mentioned as a fandom "must-read".
Go on. It'll make you smile^_^
Author: chinxe
Fandom: Módào Zǔshī - Mòxiāng Tóngxiù
Pairing: LWJ/WWX
Genre: Slash
Summary: The members of the Lan Clan have never been particularly well-known for their good judgement when it comes to matters of the heart. Which is why it should come as a surprise to no one when Lan Wangji falls in love with an actual ghost.
Warning: AU
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/17759762/chapters/41904701
This was written in the early days of MDZS fandom but it still stands up to being read today even with the live-action and season.2 of the anime. What is striking is that LWJ and WWX are still the same in terms of virtues and character flaws though their method of meeting and communication is different. Add A-Yuan and bunnies to the mix, with WQ's sharp tongue, and it's no surprise this is often mentioned as a fandom "must-read".
Go on. It'll make you smile^_^
Title: another day and you've had your fill of sinking
Author: annadream
Fandom: Módào Zǔshī - Mòxiāng Tóngxiù
Pairing: LWJ/WWX
Genre: Slash
Summary: Wei Wuxian was getting married. The man had only returned from the dead little more than a year ago, and now he was getting married. Jiang Cheng didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Warning: Spoilers for the end of the novel/series.
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/21503695/chapters/51252421
This is one of the rare fics that present a more balanced portrayal of JC after the end of the novel/ TV series, including the influences of the people most important to him. I really liked it because it doesn't whitewash the more problematic aspects of his character or all the pain that lies between him and WWX.
Bonus NHS appearance^_~
Author: annadream
Fandom: Módào Zǔshī - Mòxiāng Tóngxiù
Pairing: LWJ/WWX
Genre: Slash
Summary: Wei Wuxian was getting married. The man had only returned from the dead little more than a year ago, and now he was getting married. Jiang Cheng didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Warning: Spoilers for the end of the novel/series.
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/21503695/chapters/51252421
This is one of the rare fics that present a more balanced portrayal of JC after the end of the novel/ TV series, including the influences of the people most important to him. I really liked it because it doesn't whitewash the more problematic aspects of his character or all the pain that lies between him and WWX.
Bonus NHS appearance^_~
The Untamed, Ep.25: This is an emotionally charged episode with plenty of plot details and politics running underneath the main events.
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Re-watching CQL/TU up to episode.23 now and I've got to admire JGY's plotting.
Behind the cut for spoilers.
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Lotus Pier looks really nice in the anime and the live-action did a good job trying to re-create it, including that pavilion in the lake. Of course, Madam Yu taking out her frustrations on WWX is unfair no matter how many times it occurs in any adaptation.
At least Yanli knows JZX thinks her beneath him and not that WWX ruined her engagement. I think fans don't give JYL enough credit for her strength of character and generosity. Not every female character type needs to be a warrior to be strong or admirable. Often it's the small daily battles that really test a person's mettle.
At least Yanli knows JZX thinks her beneath him and not that WWX ruined her engagement. I think fans don't give JYL enough credit for her strength of character and generosity. Not every female character type needs to be a warrior to be strong or admirable. Often it's the small daily battles that really test a person's mettle.
MDZS, season.1-ep.5 The rain duel is really beautiful. Every drop and shadow reflected on roof tiles and swords.
Wangxian get so many love scene tropes. Under a full moon, in a bamboo forest, under heavy rain. *grins* And with white magnolia trees framing their interactions in Gusu.
Wangxian get so many love scene tropes. Under a full moon, in a bamboo forest, under heavy rain. *grins* And with white magnolia trees framing their interactions in Gusu.
Re-watching The Untamed, I hadn't noticed that WWX's silver head-piece during his Cloud Recesses study days was a winding lotus.
Challenge #2
In your own space, talk about your fannish history. Leave a comment in this post saying you did it. Include a link to your post if you feel comfortable doing so.
Started with ST:TOS and KF:TLC which was before the days of the internet. Then it was Japanese anime fandoms with Sailormoon, Gundam Wing, X, RG Veda, Tokyo Babylon, Yukikaze. American TV: House MD, Supernatural, Prison Break, Hawaii 5-0, Person of Interest. Then a dose of Britishness in HP and BBCSherlock, with a dip into 007/Q from Bond and Harry Hart/Eggsy from Kingsman. Side trip into Yuri On Ice.
Fell head over heels for Steve/Bucky till Endgame ruined it and to which I still pretend that ending didn't happen!
Currently living in Chinese danmei fandoms MDZS and QQ.
In terms of fandoms, I guess I'm a serial monogamist with OTPs! XD
A kind soul wrote an introduction on Ao3 for MDZS writers. Please read it before attempting any fic. If only to save us readers the horrors of misrepresenting character relationships, their names, or even their honorifics.
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/20426162/chapters/48456785
Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/20426162/chapters/48456785
Music is an integral part of MDZS in every adaptation of it. A kind soul on Tumblr has made a list of the songs. I'm including the post and the original link to it. All the songs are lovely and really add to the characters and story.
Link: https://lanzhanss.tumblr.com/post/188555474039/mdzs-songs
Official:
忘羡 (WangXian) — Theme song of audio drama’s season 2, WangXian’s duet by Wu En and Yu Xia.
On the official site: https://www.missevan.com/sound/1143160
English subs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-teoD5uM_8U
Alternative translation: https://fluff-crt.tumblr.com/post/181868920627/the-explanation-of-the-lyric-of-full-wangxianmp3
人间纵我 (ren jian zong wo) — Theme song of audio drama’s season 3, WangXian’s duet by Wu En and Yu Xia.
On the official site: https://m.missevan.com/sound/1277015
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZQ9u1mQ8NE
Alternative translation: https://fluff-crt.tumblr.com/post/186231466127/the-explanation-of-the-lyric-of-%E4%BA%BA%E9%97%B4%E7%BA%B5%E6%88%91-untamed-as-i
何以歌 (he yi ge) — Theme song of audio drama’s season 1, Wei WuXian’s POV by Aki.
On the official site: https://www.missevan.com/sound/1004405
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e_KbG_U-hwo
MXTX’s cover: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av25707868.html
无羁 (wu ji) — The Untamed’s theme song, WangXian’s duet by Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo.
Official YouTube channel with English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKSQTDDv0A
Alternative translation: https://fluff-crt.tumblr.com/post/186118733582/%E6%97%A0%E7%BE%81-the-untamed-translator-%E5%BD%92-proofreader
不羡 (bu xian) — Ending song of donghua’s season 1, Wei WuXian’s POV by SING女团.
With English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=epwRc3zmqdA
醉梦前尘 (zui meng qian chen) — Duet version of donghua’s opening by Zhang Jie and Bian Jiang.
With English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CggZ_j73A5k
Fanmade:
湛 (zhan; Lan Wangji’s name) — Lan Wangji’s character song, by 云三少JUN.
Original source: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av42632303.html
Translation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YrqcNEg7G4&persist_app=1&app=m
月满襟 (yue man jin) — Lan Wangji’s character song, by Wu En.
Original source: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av44473100.html
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj__nYGeUDk
陈情 (chen qing) — WangXian centric by 伶婼画.
Original source: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av8082802.html
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WesrmDAe_mg
忘尘如羡 (wang chen ru xian) — WangXian’s duet by 老虎歐巴 and Assen捷.
On YouTube (English translation in the comments): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H5K33hSjFYo
春风不羡 (chu feng bu xian) — WangXian’s duet by 锦鲤 and 玄子.
Original source: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av5604533.html
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z36L62HeA44
Link: https://lanzhanss.tumblr.com/post/188555474039/mdzs-songs
Official:
忘羡 (WangXian) — Theme song of audio drama’s season 2, WangXian’s duet by Wu En and Yu Xia.
On the official site: https://www.missevan.com/sound/1143160
English subs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-teoD5uM_8U
Alternative translation: https://fluff-crt.tumblr.com/post/181868920627/the-explanation-of-the-lyric-of-full-wangxianmp3
人间纵我 (ren jian zong wo) — Theme song of audio drama’s season 3, WangXian’s duet by Wu En and Yu Xia.
On the official site: https://m.missevan.com/sound/1277015
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZQ9u1mQ8NE
Alternative translation: https://fluff-crt.tumblr.com/post/186231466127/the-explanation-of-the-lyric-of-%E4%BA%BA%E9%97%B4%E7%BA%B5%E6%88%91-untamed-as-i
何以歌 (he yi ge) — Theme song of audio drama’s season 1, Wei WuXian’s POV by Aki.
On the official site: https://www.missevan.com/sound/1004405
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e_KbG_U-hwo
MXTX’s cover: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av25707868.html
无羁 (wu ji) — The Untamed’s theme song, WangXian’s duet by Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo.
Official YouTube channel with English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKSQTDDv0A
Alternative translation: https://fluff-crt.tumblr.com/post/186118733582/%E6%97%A0%E7%BE%81-the-untamed-translator-%E5%BD%92-proofreader
不羡 (bu xian) — Ending song of donghua’s season 1, Wei WuXian’s POV by SING女团.
With English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=epwRc3zmqdA
醉梦前尘 (zui meng qian chen) — Duet version of donghua’s opening by Zhang Jie and Bian Jiang.
With English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CggZ_j73A5k
Fanmade:
湛 (zhan; Lan Wangji’s name) — Lan Wangji’s character song, by 云三少JUN.
Original source: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av42632303.html
Translation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YrqcNEg7G4&persist_app=1&app=m
月满襟 (yue man jin) — Lan Wangji’s character song, by Wu En.
Original source: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av44473100.html
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj__nYGeUDk
陈情 (chen qing) — WangXian centric by 伶婼画.
Original source: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av8082802.html
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WesrmDAe_mg
忘尘如羡 (wang chen ru xian) — WangXian’s duet by 老虎歐巴 and Assen捷.
On YouTube (English translation in the comments): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H5K33hSjFYo
春风不羡 (chu feng bu xian) — WangXian’s duet by 锦鲤 and 玄子.
Original source: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av5604533.html
English subs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z36L62HeA44
So The Untamed is on Netflix now.... I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, it gives more exposure to the work, actors, and profit to the author.
On the other hand... no this is definitely the negative part about having a very niche Chinese genre being introduced to mass Western audiences. The bad jokes and cultural confusion are easy to dismiss and/or overcome, it's the sheer sense of entitlement that is hard to swallow. American fans in particular are so fond of imposing their own cultural views, LGBT history, and righteous social issues on other parts of the world. Even to the point of completely ignoring that what is the norm in the USA doesn't occur in the rest of the world, nor would it work there.
When the MDZS fandom just started to become widespread in English-speaking circles of fandom, I spent a lot of time explaining things to newbies. Most of them were really young and eager to learn more about a foreign subject, but the Americans were really hard to talk down from their high horses. *sighs*
On the other hand... no this is definitely the negative part about having a very niche Chinese genre being introduced to mass Western audiences. The bad jokes and cultural confusion are easy to dismiss and/or overcome, it's the sheer sense of entitlement that is hard to swallow. American fans in particular are so fond of imposing their own cultural views, LGBT history, and righteous social issues on other parts of the world. Even to the point of completely ignoring that what is the norm in the USA doesn't occur in the rest of the world, nor would it work there.
When the MDZS fandom just started to become widespread in English-speaking circles of fandom, I spent a lot of time explaining things to newbies. Most of them were really young and eager to learn more about a foreign subject, but the Americans were really hard to talk down from their high horses. *sighs*
The Untamed, Ep.20-24: Someone returns from the dead, the sects decide to go to war against Wen Ruohan, and LWJ and WWX's relationship is tested.
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The Untamed, Ep.16-19: Continuing the fall of Lotus Pier, multiple deaths, and old friends reuniting.
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The Untamed, Ep.10-15: Lots of events happen here. One thing this live-action has going for it is that it never drags on. I don't think there's any episode that can be classified as filler.
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