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Showing posts with label Transport. Show all posts
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Saturday, 3 October 2015

Fletcher Millers revisited

Pictures and information provided courtesy of   Brian Oldham  who worked at Fletcher Millers from 1956 as an apprentice mechanic and worked through to the 80s during which time it changed to Burmah, then Burmah Castrol and finally BP, Brian progressed to garage manager.

Fletcher Miller was started in 1935 by the Miller family. The story goes whether true or not, is that one of the brothers owned a chemists shop in Dukinfield, his brother is said to have walked in the shop one day with a bottle of oil, and one of water. He said "If we can make these mix we could make a fortune". It was eventually found that whale oil and water would do this and the mixture was the ideal medium for cutting oil with lathes and machines that needed to be lubricated and cooled, the oil lubricated and the water cooled.
The firm originally was located in Alma Mills, Dukinfield but moved to Hyde after a disastrous fire there. It then moved to the old Tinker Shenton boiler works on Furnace Street and they continued production there. They also had depots at Blantyre Scotland, West Bromwich in the Midlands, Bristol, Wandsworth and Rotherhithe.


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GUY OTTER Engine is a Gardner 4lk


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AEC MAMMOTH MAJOR  MK111 Engine is AEC 11.3 litre

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 TRUSTY DIESEL  Engine is Gardner 6lw

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COMMER TS3 2 STROKE DIESEL

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FODEN WITH GARDENER Engine 6lw
This is the garage next to Rosemount church where Fletchers were based. Before Fletcher Millers owned it, this was owned by Joseph Hoyle transport and the garage was named as such.

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AEC MANDATER WITH AEC 760 engine

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Milk float used by Fletcher Millers during the 70s for transporting drums between departments

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Thank you Brian,

While I was sorting this post out an email came in quite by chance, which too was about Fletcher Millers. Allen Miller had read another article on the blog and got in touch. Perfect timing indeed, over to Allen  




I am Allen Miller and related to the family. 
John Miller was my Father’s uncle and he went to work for Fletcher Millers after WW2 ended. This would be at or about 1949, when my father and mother (Joan Miller ne Shaw) moved to Bush Hill North London. There my dad took over the then late Sidney Miller’s round in North London. Sam Miller (another brother) had the distribution round for cutting oils in the black country around Birmingham. I new Sam well he was my uncle and Beryl his daughter. I met John Miller (founder) once but I was only very young then.

When I was a young man I went to the Wandsworth production and distribution centre with my father and met some of the chemists there. I also met Mr. Robertshaw who was the production manager. I do not remember going to Alma Mills (Hyde) production but I know there were two chemists there who did most of the design work called Messrs. Bickerton and Birchenoff.     

My dad got the Ford’s order for Dagenham and the Ford tractor plant at Langley and became a director of Castrol Industrial Oils division very soon afterwards. 

My father’s cousin was ‘Bobby’ Miller he took over from John Miller as Managing Director when ‘Uncle John’ died. Bobby moved off to Malta with his wife Christine in the early 80’s and then moved back to the UK after about 3 years there. He then went to live on the northern part of the Isle of Man in Jurby at a house called Ballaterson Manor. I went there once to visit him. Christine was no longer around then and I never met her.

My uncle on my mother’s side Eric Shaw went to work for FM’s and later Burmah when they took over things. Burmah were in a bad state then. They had bought many Tankers for the oil run from Bahrain at the time when there was an oil glut and let them rot in the Norwegian Fjords. My dad was 55 then and he was made redundant when Burmah ran short of cash. Eric was kept on more or less to retirement age. He was the one responsible for making the frame for the picture below.



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In the pictures you will see some hand-outs that Castrol distributed. There were several of these dusters made and this is just one of them. Another one were the matching salt and pepper cruets the bottoms of which you can see in the next photo as being from Castrol. We also had a cigarette lighter with a model of Castrol house inside it, but the plastic degraded and I belive it was scrapped. My father also had a long-service plate similar to the one on your website. I am not sure where it is – maybe in our attic somewhere.

Dad tried to get me into the oil business but I went my own way. I am an electronics engineer and now at 65 still going strong.
Best Regards,
Allen Miller    

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From 'Grace's Guide To British Industry'

Of Alma Mills, Dukinfield, Manchester. Telephone: Ashton-under-Lyne 1844/5. Telegraphic Address: "Emulsion, Dukinfield".(1937) of Hyde, near Manchester
1921 Patent - Improvements in or relating to back plates for gas and like stoves or cookers.
1937 Oil chemists to the engineering trades. "Clearedge" Translucent Soluble Coolant. "Cooledge" Water Soluble Cutting Oil. "Lardedge" Mineralised Lard Oil. "Rodol" Rust Preventatives. "Swift" Sulphurised Straight Cutting Oil. [1]
1937 Listed Exhibitor - British Industries Fair. Metal Cutting Oils , such as Roebuck Oil, (neat and water soluble), Drawing Compounds, rust Preventives (liquid and solid), Easing Oil, Degreasing Compounds, Belt Dressing, Case-hardening Media, Oils for Engineering, Marine and Industrial purposes. (Stand No. D.309) [2]

1958 C. C. Wakefield and Co acquired Fletcher Miller, which was also involved in industrial oils[3].
A few of their adverts
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You can still by the toy tanker
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Tuesday, 16 June 2015

Mottram Old Road, Viaduct



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I came across this picture last week whilst searching for something completely different. I have never seen this before. It shows the viaduct on Mottram Old Road between Gee Cross and Hattersley. It states it shows the dismantling of railway tunnels, after construction of cutting and viaduct. The picture as taken by a Mr. Maurice Marshall and dates 1907.
Can anyone add any more information about this, I've never heard of these tunnels before.



Thursday, 26 September 2013

Maypole Dairy Wagon



Steam Powered WagonMade By Edwin Foden of Sandbach


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I would have liked to have seen this making it's way through Hyde, a hundred years ago this would have been their 'White Van Man'.

This is a snippet from 


Concerning Steam Wagons Generally.
A Foden Log.

Mr. L. F. Haydock, Manager of the Motor Department of the Maypole Dairy Co., Ltd., Godley, near Manchester, under date the 11th inst., writes to us :—" We beg to give you the following figures about our Foden wagons: Motor No. 1.—Average weekly mileage, 215 miles; average load per run, 8 tons 7 cwt. ; cost of coal per mile, 1.23d., ; coal used per mile, 8.10 lb.; average miles per journey', 57. Motor No. 2.—Average weekly mileage, 245 miles ; average load per run, 8 tons 9 cwt.; cost of coal per, mile, 1.28d.; coal used per mile, 7.90 lb.; average miles per journey, 66. Motor No. 3.—Average weekly mileage, 242 miles ; average load per journey, 8 tons 13 cwt. ; cost of coal per mile. I.42d.; coal used per mile, 9.35 lb. ; average miles per journey, 63. Motor No. 4.—Average weekly mileage, 236 miles; average load per journey, 8 tons 10 cwt. ; cost of coal per mile, 1.34d.; coal used per mile, 8.83 lb. ; average miles per journey, 6.5. Motor No. 5.—Average weekly mileage, 249 miles; average load per journey, 9 tons ; cost -of coal per mile, 1.27d.; coal used per mile„ 8.37 lb. ; average miles per journey, 67.

" The. above figures a-re for the year 1910. The average weights of loads include empties on hack trip." Good Steamers.

Wednesday, 21 August 2013

Haughton Street

Today's picture of Haughton Street came by email from Andrea, this is what she wrote.
"I came across this picture while visiting my dad in Wales recently. My younger brother Andrew is on the front of the 'bogey' being guided by Pat Kelly. The picture was taken on Haughton Street, you can see the Bush Inn on the corner and Kay's sweet shop opposite. I think the white building next to Kay's was the Cheshire Laundry company. I am not sure who else is in the picture.  Happy days."

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TThank you Andrea, this is just the kind of picture I like to find in our emails... social history at its best, friends playing out in the street with a bogie... shops in the background, the Bush Inn to the right and just look at that van from Beanstalks... 
This must be very early 1970s looking at how Pat is dressed and his haircut. I've known Pat from around the time this picture seems to have been taken. When I worked on the door at Lowry's in the 80s Pat once turned up at the door but could not get in because he was wearing a v-neck jumper... it was a time when the lads had to wear a collar to get in, I told him to come back with a collar on and he could come in... a while after he came back with a red patterned shirt collar showing.. he was let in . As he was walking past I noticed it was not a patterned shirt at all, Pat had left the door and cut through the bus station to the Sylet Indian Restaurant, he went in and grabbed a few of their serviettes.. Red with their logo on... He'd folded them in a way to make them look like a shirt collar... I'm happy to say it paid off... and in a week a two the wearing a collar rule was rightly abandoned.

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Plans for a 'Bogie'

I used an urban dictionary to check the correct spelling of the above and found out the other Bogey is described thus "A dried and usually tasty snack to be found in ones nasal passage." 




Saturday, 23 June 2012

Hyde (and Stalybridge, Mossley & Dukinfield) Tramways

A couple more cuttings from the All Our Yesterdays edition of The Reporter, this time about the early trams seen in Hyde. The captions underneath the pictures tell you all about them. I like the natty appearance of the driver of the tram in the first picture, contrasting with the somewhat less sartorial appearance of the man lounging at the back of the tram!

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By coincidence as I was contemplating posting these cuttings I called into Hyde library and amongst the local booklets and brochures they have for sale there I saw a brochure about the setting-up of the SHM&D Tramway network. I'd not seen it before although it was evidently first published in 2002 as the inside front cover bears the following dedication:

Stalybridge Historical Society dedicate
this book to their late secretary, Mr Colin Stringer,
who died on the sixteenth of September 2002
in his sixtieth year.

It looks like an interesting read with maps and drawings and photos showing details of the tramway system and below are scans of the front and back covers of the brochure.

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Sunday, 13 May 2012

Trains


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Newton Station

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Train Leaving Newton Station

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Ashton Road Train Bridge

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Scrap Yard Ashton Road

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View From Mary Street

I enjoyed looking at each and everyone of these pictures, the view from Mary Street is excellent with the Steam Engine on show.
These pictures were sent in by Aidan Prince who we once again thank for providing a post. I'd like to see more pictures such as this turning up... 

Tuesday, 10 April 2012

Isobel Garbett and her Motorbike

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With ref to the photo of Bill Cromptons grandfather on a motorbike, circa first world war, I am sending you a photo of my great aunt Isobel Garbett on her New Hudson motorbike, picture taken outside her home 269 Manchester Road, Hyde. The love of bikes must be in the family  because when I was aged about one I am pictured on a Royal Enfield with my mum and dad.  I ride a bike now, though nothing near as grand! I only have a Vespa scooter, but I love it, I love the freedom and the fresh air. Regards
Trish Mullineaux


Thank you Trish, for sharing these pictures... Your great Aunt must have been quite a lady... I really like to see pictures such as this thank you for sharing.

Friday, 20 January 2012

Booth's Taxi's

A great picture of Fred Booth at the wheel of his taxi, it says on the back of this photograph "Ibbotson's of Market Street - Fish & Chip Shop.

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AMA 71, taken on what is believed Park Road April 9th 1933

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Booth's Taxi's and Coaches would have been a regular sight around Hyde at one time... I recall the coaches and the garage off Dowson Road... but know very little about the company... I'm sure in old publication there must be adverts for them.. Did you use their taxi's or recall a coach trip.. if so let us know.
I've been informed that an A and H Booth, Bus and Coach Hire are working out of Grosvenor Garage... I do hope this is still part of the original Booth family.

Saturday, 5 November 2011

Newton Railway Depot

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I know very little of Newton Railway Depot, yet it must have been a very busy place at one time. If you have anything to add I'd be very pleased to hear it.


A few more local railway photographs:-

Mottram Old Rd & New bridge over L.N.E.R. railway line
Mottram Old Road & the new bridge over the L.N.E.R Line, c 1930's

67403 Train leaving Hyde Central
67403 Train leaving Hyde Junction Station in 1953

76008 & 76030 Trains near Godley Station
76008 & 76030 Trains at Godley Station in 1973

Hyde Central Railway Station
Hyde Central Railway Station in the 1960's