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"But what makes you think we won't get robbed blind there?"

"They're not crooks that way - at least not often. The Daal goes for the skinning-alive thing," Goth explained. "You get robbed, you squawk. Then somebody gets skinned. It's pretty safe!"

It did sound like the Daal had hit upon a dependable method to give his planet a reputation for solid integrity in business deals.


In this very funny pulp space opera from 1966, down-on-his-luck space Captain Pausert rescues three small psychic slave girls, or more precisely, they maneuver him into providing rescues that they very likely would have engineered themselves if he hadn’t conveniently come along.

Their owners are certainly all too happy to be rid of them, given that Maleen has food-poisoned the customers of one, the Leewit (not Leewit, the Leewit) perches like a small, evil cat atop the shelves of another and uses piercing whistles to break his porcelain wares, and the grumpy teleporter Goth has reduced her own owner to a gibbering wreck by the time Pausert steps in.

Pausert returns the other girls to their home planet and has a series of adventures with Goth (to my regret, the Leewit and Maleen mostly drop out of the story) involving space pirates, space spies, Worm World, Pausert’s own developing psychic powers, time travel, invisible telepathic psi entities, and a robot-wolf-spider-assassin-rug thing. I love this sort of thing, and ate it up with a spoon. I don’t think I have ever before used the word “rollicking,” but this novel distinctly rollicks.

My only caveat is that I was mildly squicked by the several references to Goth (who is about fourteen) marrying Pausert (whom I pictured in his mid-thirties) when she grows up. I don’t know if it was more or less squicky given that all his actual interactions with her and the other girls were completely appropriate to their relative ages. However, that’s about four lines total in a book which was otherwise enormously fun.

I see that Schmitz is also famous for the Telzey Amberdon series, about a psychic girl. I can’t imagine how this has escaped me until now, but I will seek it out.

In print via Amazon: The Witches of KarresBERJAYA
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I've heard that Schmitz wrote a sequel to the Witches of Karres, but he had one MS copy and it was lost in a fire. He never reconstructed it or rewrote it.
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I've been mentally casting it (if it could be a movie) but as I think of it my casting is 20 years off. Kenneth Branagh as Pausert, Drew Barrymore (as a child) as The Leewit, etc. Who would you choose?
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Oh, I'm so glad you love this book, too! (Amazing, amazing amounts of female agency, no?) Warning: apparently the Telzey Amberdon re-releases were heavily re-written, and not by Schmidt. >:-(

I'm not creeped out by the Goth thing because it is clearly not Pausert's idea, and he is more threatened by it than anything else. It doesn't squick me the way that Emma/Mr. Knightley does.

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Do you know which editions of the Telzey books are OK? I have 1970s-1980s paperbacks I could send Rachel if her library doesn't have them.

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I loved this when I was a kid, but the Telzey books were my favorites. I still haven't read the Trigger books, though.
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I see that Schmitz is also famous for the Telzey Amberdon series, about a psychic girl.

And her giant invisible cat. I have very fond memories of The Universe Against Her (1964), which I read right around the same time as Andre Norton.

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Wait, then what was the book with the giant telepathic otter? Because I loved that.

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Oh my gosh, Telzey and Trigger are so kickass. (They're like Nancy Drew in space! ...with more guns and death and badassery! :D) I attempted to pimp the Hub universe for Yuletide but it was too little, too late, I think.

The Baen compilations edited by Eric Flint are all online. Links to most of them, excerpted from my pimpage:

Telzey Amberdon - These are, as it says on the tin, Telzey stories, except for the one about Wellan Dasinger (who also kicks ass; Star Hyacinths is a bit of a dud, but Wellan is cool in other stories).

Trigger and Friends -- The primary Trigger story is "Legacy." The first and third stories, "Harvest Time" and "Aura of Immortality," are also Trigger stories. Eric Flint cut or changed a few parts, some of which changes I strongly disagree with; you can read them here if you're bored sometime (also, there's meta at the end of some of the books).

TnT: Telzey and Trigger has the stories where they hang out and kick ass together.

I think there's a couple more Hub compilations, they're either on the site there with the CDs or in the Free Baen Library.
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In some ways the Goth-marriage thing is worse than you recall - she's about 11 (it's Maleen who's 14). But everyone is so matter-of-fact about it (including Goth) that I always just shrug when I hit one of the comments about it.

I liked the first Telzey story I read - "Novice," when I was 11 years old myself, in the excellent collection Tomorrow's Children (which also introduced me to the novella version of "Witches of Karres" and to Henderson's "People") - but I don't think all of them were up to the same standard.


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My own copy of "The Witches of Karres" is in storage with my other books (that's a long story) so it has been years, but it's my recollection that the young witches were talking as though they were going to assign Pausert to the sister who wanted him whether he liked it or not!

(I also wondered how long Karres years are.)

I always wondered how they'd take it if he turned up later with a wife nearer his own age...

(Tries to cage a sudden, unexpected, funny plot-bunny.)

From: [identity profile] mikeda.livejournal.com


assign Pausert

Goth's attitude did seem to have a lot of "finders-keepers" in it.

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The witches are the best of Schmitz, but Telzey is good fun too. And named after corundum!

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I read this when I was 11, and loved it. I told myself lots and lots of self-insert stories involving these characters.

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I read it when I was a young enough teen to think that Goth marrying Pausert was okay because he'd just give her more freedom and plenty of dough, and maybe a space ship of her own, and that would be it.

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He certainly seems more baffled than turned-on by the marriage talk. Thank God.

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I'm glad you liked this - it definitely isn't to everyone's tastes.

I love it, but it's the only Schmitz I really love. I've read all three Telzey collections, and they're fine, but to me they don't have the same sense of fun that Karres does. Ditto for The Demon Breed and most of his non-Telzey short fiction that I've read. (Some of his other short fiction and his novel The Eternal Frontier suffers from his trying to make things Mean Things without enough buildup.) However, a lot of people love the Telzey books, so you should definitely try them.

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Further thoughts: my take on Karres, for whatever it's worth, is as a subversion of the stereotypical adolescent power fantasy.

My mental picture of said fantasy is basically: alienated and possibly oppressed or ostracized teenager falls in with people who teach him or her (but traditionally this is a him) Powerful Techniques of some kind. The teenager learns these techniques faster than anyone else and is better than anyone else, and ends up saving some noticeable portion of the world and showing all his old friends/family/whoever how wrong they were. Often they get a romance as well.

So, Karres basically does all this, but... differently. The protagonist is male but not a teenager (I would peg him as mid-twenties on the basis of no prior career of his being mentioned aside from the abortive miffel farm). He gets kicked out of his society, but he isn't terribly upset about it (and still has a spaceship). He spends time with Karres witches, but although they kind of are a powerful secret society, they're mostly a genial bunch of people living in the woods making good food. He develops psychic powers, and as required learns them quickly and is very good at (some of) them, but a)is trained in them by a 10-year-old girl and b)finds that some are dangerous to use. He helps to save the galaxy, but most of the heavy lifting is done by the Leewit (a five-year-old girl) and the vatch. And instead of a romance he gets the prospect of waiting for Goth to grow up so she can marry him.

From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com


That's a very interesting point. (I kept waiting for him to have a romance with the spy, but mo.)

I think I pictured Pausert older because he's so self-assured and non-angsty.
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Karres remains one of my favorite books of all time, that rare childhood read that continues to delight me in adulthood. It provided me with metaphors for all the many kinds of angst I struggled with in my teens and early twenties, and I will forever be grateful.

Whatever you do, do not read the "sequels" written by Eric Flint. Avoid avoid avoid.

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Apparently this has been sitting on a bookshelf in the house for years, courtesy of library-combining between me and the spouse, and I've avoided it all along because of its viciously horribly cover. (And I do mean horrible; I'm actually pondering looking for an ebook version to buy just so that no one catches me reading a book this ugly.) Time to dust it off and take a look!

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