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I'm in the middle of three books, one of which I will be in the middle of for ages as it's a ridiculously long web novel which the author is also in the middle of, unless he finished it recently and I missed it. That's Ward by Wildbow, the sequel to Worm, his engrossing million-word epic about a girl who can control bugs. If the format makes your eyes bleed, some judicious googling will turn up downloadable versions. Please do contribute to the author's Patreon or PayPal him some cash if you read.

The other books I'm in the middle of are a pair of re-reads, Fitzempress' Law by Diana Norman and Doomsday BookBERJAYA by Connie Willis.

Please don't comment to inform me that my links are problematic. I'm aware. My recent attempts to create less problematic book links only resulted in a cascade of milkshake ducks.

Also, please don't comment to say that you would never read what I'm reading. I get a lot of comments like that. I understand that you don't mean it in a judgy way, but it sounds judgy. I am well aware that the majority of my readers prefer to read escapist fluffy stuff when their lives are depressing.

I too sometimes have that impulse. But I just as often have the impulse to read books for a different sort of comfort: the comfort of hearing, "I've been there too. I understand. And after all that, books will still be written; the one you're reading now is proof."
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From: [personal profile] scioscribe


I too sometimes have that impulse. But I just as often have the impulse to read books for a different sort of comfort: the comfort of hearing, "I've been there too. I understand. And after all that, books will still be written; the one you're reading now is proof."

IIRC, the big thing that bothered me in Station Eleven was that artists were still around but no one was making any new art. People will always try to keep the stories they love alive, but they'll also always keep telling new stories, and I find that comforting too.
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From: [personal profile] mrissa


Among the chief things that bothered me about Station Eleven were despair, ableism, and a fanatical devotion to the past.
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From: [personal profile] sovay


and Doomsday Book by Connie Willis.

How is that holding up for you? I remember liking it so much I never went on to To Say Nothing of the Dog, because people said it was so different.

"God didn't know where His Son was, Dunworthy thought. He had sent His only begotten Son into the world, and something had gone wrong with the fix, someone had turned off the net, so that He couldn't get to him, and they had arrested him and put a crown of thorns on his head and nailed him to a cross."
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From: [personal profile] sovay


Halfway through, and it's still great. Just beautifully written.

Oh, good. (My copy is in storage or I probably would be re-reading it. Last night I rewatched The Seventh Seal.)
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The future part is currently suffering from a severe shortage of lavatory paper due to quarantine.

And people say that SF doesn't predict the future!
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From: [personal profile] sholio


Wow, I don't remember that part at all, or for that matter, any other book dealing with apocalypses that this particular detaial occurs in. With her attention to mundane details as a writer, it does seem like the sort of thing that Willis would have picked up on.
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Yes, I can totally relate to the comfort of reading about others who have been there before! Knowing that books will still be written gives me hope.
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I have a student who was waxing eloquent about Worm!

Wow!

Not even six degrees of separation when it's the internet.
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My agent loves "Worm", but complained that it's unpublishable commercially as-is and she can't figure out a way to offer him any value-added for the immense amount of work turning into book-sized episodes would involve. So yay for not-commercially-viable-format fiction, I guess?

I ploughed through "Worm" but lost momentum about 300K words into "Ward". Must pick it up and see if I can get any further this time.
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Worm is 1.7 million words. Rounding to 1.8 million gives three tomes of 600,000 words each, or slightly less than War and Peace (but comfortably longer than Lord of the Rings).

It might work as ebooks, I guess? But on paper it's gonna run into the problem of high-end bookbinding costs/high cost of goods per book block that had David Hartwell merrily chopping long novels into short installments back in the last decade. (I could tell tales and name names ...!)
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Ah! Yeah, that'd work.

Problem would lie in restructuring them as standalone-readable books: they'd need front matter or at least some sort of connective tissue to link them to previous, and I'm not convinced the arcs work as standalone. Hmm.


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From: [personal profile] autopope


Correct in principle, but ...

Reference points: "War and Peace" is about 400,000 words. "Lord of the Rings" is about 350,000 words. A typical Pete Hamilton doorstep -- or Neal Stephenson tome -- is about 300-400,000 words.

Worm is 1.7 million words. It's one and a half times as long as a Peter Hamilton or Neal Stephenson trilogy.

I think that's pretty much unprecedented. So it'd cause huuuuge problems estimating print runs for a paper edition, and is there any point in doing an electronic version?
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People just have different reading preferences. I know a few folks who are reading "The Plague" right now.
Personally I find murder mysteries very comforting and the next book I read will probably be a Stephen King one.
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"Cycle of the Werewolf". I picked it up a couple of weeks ago at a free little library. Ususally I have some vivid memories from King novels I've read before, but not for this one. I'm curious what I'll think of it today.

What about you, are you going to revisit one you know or try a new one?
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From: [personal profile] tamsin


I really enjoyed "Needful Things", I hope you will too.

I'm halfway through "Cycle of the Werewolf" and liking it a lot. I'm impressed with how well it flows since present tense is tricky. Will check out your fic once I'm done.
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Long ago on the still-lamented Fidonet Writing Echo, we used to get into terrible squabbles about "fluff" and "comfort reading" and "serious literature" until we sorted out that anybody's fluff can actually be someone else's serious literature, and vice versa; and that anything at all can be comfort reading. I comfort-read Mary Renault, whose books contain scenes I actually skip much of the time. But I've read the books so many times in so many settings, and they look right at the uncertainty of life and time and chance. "Remember that anything that can happen, can happen to you," her characters quote, more than once.

I also love things that do not make me confront the present reality, whatever it may be, head on. But there's a divide among people overall, I think between preferring solidarity and preferring escape. That said, anybody may need to cross the line to the other side under particular circumstances.

P.
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From: [personal profile] minoanmiss


Mary Renault! Eeee! I would love to babble about her books with you else journal.
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From: [personal profile] taelle


the comfort of hearing, "I've been there too
I get that impulse, though somehow I can't stand such things in fictional form - only in memoirs/diaries/histories (coronavirus made me read Samuel Pepys's diary, and now I'm regretting I only have a small book of excerpts from him). Maybe something inside me doesn't trust fiction for "I've been there" feeling.
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From: [personal profile] qian


I think what's really working for me with my WW1/2 comfort reads is that they're legit kinda cosy, since they're from the POV of people living in non-invaded countries, but the characters are also legit living in terrible, stressful times. I wouldn't feel like reading them right now without the latter element.
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From: [personal profile] sholio


This makes me think that perhaps I need to get back to reading Gillian Bradshaw. I absolutely adored Island of Ghosts and then didn't enjoy any of her other books nearly as much (of the ones I read) and in fact hated a few things about the last one, so I drifted away, but she tends to frequently set her books during the rebuilding phase of various politically dicy historical eras. (Island of Ghosts is set in the British Isles after a major Roman offensive, for example.) And that sounds relevant to my interests right now.
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There's probably a strong YMMV element to it, of course, but it happened to really nail some of my favorite versions of the tropes I love. A lot of her books deal, generally, with themes that are relevant to my interests (people repairing their lives and connecting to the people around them) but I was especially happy with the way this one did it.
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Oh, Gillian Bradshaw! The Beacon at Alexandria is so important to me as a queer book even though it's not at all clear to me that she meant it to be a queer book. But more relevantly right now, it's about someone being very passionate about bringing medical care to where it's most needed. Perhaps I will reread it.
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Man, I keep meaning to try Worm. I've heard such good things!
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The thing I appreciate most about "our faves are problematic" is the tacit acknowledgment that they don't stop being our faves.
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I'm a person who considers an airplane read something long and intense that I have not had the time to focus on otherwise, so really, people's reading habits vary and we are all a beautiful rainbow.
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