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[personal profile] muccamukk
Re a conversation I'm having in comments with [personal profile] trepkos.

I think I've mentioned before that growing up without TV reception, I really only saw shows when I was visiting Grandma or one of my cousins, and therefore my knowledge of Star Trek was largely based on the novels, and the very rare episode I caught while in town, or that someone had on VHS (mostly TNG, which was airing at the time).

I relied on the secondhand knowledge provided by the novels, which would refer back to canon events in an entirely muddled way that made it difficult to know what had happened. I was therefore delighted to discover that James Blish had written narrative versions of all the Original Series episodes.

"Great!" I thought, "Now I can get all the details straight, and understand the references in the novels."

I forget how I figured it out, maybe one of the novels contradicted the Blish versions, or maybe it was in one of the other reference books (we had, at one point, the nitpicker's guides and the encyclopedia). But I worked out that Blish was not only changing details, but sometimes changing the entire endings of episodes! Shock! Betrayal! Horror! Imagine the most outraged 9-10 year old you've ever seen!

(In retrospect, I'm wondering if Blish was writing them from memory? Or possibly shooting scripts? Does anyone know? Knowledge of this must exist.)

However, I was actually kind of disappointed when I finally saw "Amok Time," because I low-key liked some of Blish's made-up details? Well, not most of them, but there's a beat in the ending that I fully imprinted on, and that isn't in the original episode. And I know this is blasphemy, because the original ending is fully iconic, with Spock smiling and almost hugging Kirk before he remembers he's not supposed to have feelings. However, hear me out. I went and found the Blish version on Archive.org (they're all there, if you want to delight in corny 1970s renderings of 1960s camp), and it goes thusly:
[Kirk] came gradually back to consciousness in the Sickbay.* McCoy was bending over him. Nearby was Spock, his hands over his face. His shoulders were shaking.

Nurse Christine† came into his field of view, and turning Spock towards the Captain, gently pulled his hands away from his face. Kirk smiled weakly, and spoke in a faint but cheerful voice.

"Mr. Spock—I never thought I'd see the day..."

"Captain!" Spock stared down at him, absolutely dazed with astonishment.‡ Then, obviously realizing what his face and voice were revealing, he looked away.

I know it's not a masterpiece of literary genius,‡ but it does hit the niche trope of "emotionally more open character comes upon emotionally closed character secretly having a good cry, and that leads to banging revelations of true feelings." Which I could read a hundred thousand versions of and never tire of wanting more, and I have indeed included in at least a couple of my own fic. I'm not sure if this is the first time I ran into it, but it might have been? If so, Thank you, Mr. Blish!

Anyway, hi. I'm actually doing reading for history. Of 12th-century nuns, not mid-20th-century pop culture.



* Definite article in the original?

† Nurse Does Not Have a Last Name!?

‡ Look. The thing about being nine is you don't notice when the prose is Not Very Good.

Date: 13 June 2026 22:11 (UTC)
dewline: Text - "On the DEWLine" (Default)
From: [personal profile] dewline
Blish was absolutely working from early shooting scripts until things got to the point where he could see the episodes for himself. By which point, things in the earlier collections had to be left unfixed.

Date: 14 June 2026 13:41 (UTC)
melannen: Commander Valentine of Alpha Squad Seven, a red-haired female Nick Fury in space, smoking contemplatively (Default)
From: [personal profile] melannen
Yeah, once you get to the collections aired after the show finished, they get a lot more accurate (though there's still some additions and changes for the book format, they don't contradict the show anymore). The first couple are pretty inaccurate, though, since he was working so far in advance.

(I still haven't seen the animated series but I loved the ADF novelizations of those while having no idea how accurate *they* were)

Date: 14 June 2026 00:27 (UTC)
lilacsigil: 12 Apostles rocks, text "Rock On" (12 Apostles)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
I had the same experience of growing up with the Star Trek novels rather than the show - I did have TV reception but only two channels, so I at least had Doctor Who! And we had a VCR but the only episodes at my local video store were Plato's Stepchildren, The Menagerie and The City on the Edge of Forever.

Blish's versions were canon to me for a long time, and I didn't find out about the differences until I was at uni and got to watch some actual episodes. He was indeed writing from early versions of scripts, then apparently he became quite ill while writing the third season episodes so his wife took over. Uncredited, of course.

Date: 14 June 2026 00:38 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
history. Of 12th-century nuns, not mid-20th-century pop culture.

I hope some of it contains a good cry and then banging.

(I also read most of the Blish novelizations before I saw the episodes or movies, although I believe I have since seen more of TOS than any of the other series. [personal profile] spatch is currently showing me another round of DS9 which I am enjoying immensely.)

Date: 14 June 2026 02:32 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sholio
I had a bunch of the Blish Star Trek novels in the 90s because I found a near complete set in a used bookstore. I got rid of them when I moved, which I occasionally feel a bit wistful about.

I don't remember the differences now at all (though I do remember flipping through the books for particularly juicy h/c scenes and sometimes being a little surprised at how they compared to those episodes I had any specific memories of). But this post happened to be very timely for me because I was just thinking about something related, actually, while I was making lunch today, namely:

I was thinking about how my general experience with Gen Z (or I guess it's post-Gen Z now) tweens/teens suggests that for them, watching short clips of media on Youtube, Tiktok, or other video apps is a core component of having seen a show or movie. I know #notallteens, but it's kind of universal among the under-18s I know that if you chat with them about some media thing or other, when they say something like "Oh, I love that / I'm a big fan of that /etc", asking them about their favorite parts leads to the discovery that what they mean is, they've seen some clips of it.

So I was thinking about that, and what an odd experience of "watching" this seems to me, but this led me to thinking about how my own TV/media experience all through the 80s and 90s was equally odd, random, and not always what you would think of as "watching" it. It often involved random episodes of shows caught on TV (usually with entire missing seasons; unless you happened to catch a show on its pilot episode or it was airing in syndication, you almost never saw all of it); it was novelizations and TV guide summaries of things you hadn't seen, and later, once I got on the internet, some things I considered myself fannish about - like Red Dwarf, say - were things I couldn't watch because they weren't available where I was, that I knew about mainly through fan sites, scripts, and summaries. I remember keeping up with the first few seasons of Stargate SG-1 - which was on cable, which I didn't have - by reading online recaps and then eventually getting to see the episodes a year or two later when they showed up in syndication.

The era of watching an entire show in order without spoilers was something that didn't really happen for me until the last couple years of the 90s/early part of the 2000s, by way of video stores beginning to stock entire season of things, and downloaded episodes from the internet; up until then, it was whatever random episodes you could catch on TV or find at the video store, or whatever supplemental materials you happened to be able to get your hands on. Compared to that, becoming a fan of something by watching clips of it on Youtube seems downright ordinary, and there's nothing odd about it at all.

Date: 14 June 2026 11:17 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sparowe
I had the three book set of his from 1991. Went on a Star Trek tear in 1995, and those books got me through my finals as a senior. I couldn't sleep, so I'd stay up reading those. They were definitely different in some places, but it felt like a secret/special alt version, so I was pretty pleased with it.

Haven't thought about those in awhile, thanks for the nostalgia. <3

Date: 14 June 2026 11:47 (UTC)
regshoe: A folded red-and-green tartan scarf, with text 'certainly not philanthropy' (Philanthropy)
From: [personal profile] regshoe
Then, obviously realizing what his face and voice were revealing, he looked away.


Not Very Good the prose may be, but ha, that's a good line :D /doesn't go here at all

Date: 14 June 2026 19:21 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] missizzy
Hey, at least you were reading proper novelizations. I first learned most of the episodes of TOS and TNG from my sister's Chronology book and TNG Nitpicker's Guide!
(I also grew up reading the cover off my combined novelizations of the Star Wars trilogy. I'd seen the movies, too, but the books quickly became more familiar. And when the special edition ones came out I was so happy to see the scene with Solo and Jabba I'd grown up reading a version of.)

Date: 14 June 2026 21:07 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] garonne

Oh, so interesting!

My experience was similar: I was a huge Star Trek fan, but had only managed to catch a couple of the original series episodes at my grandmother's + The Wrath of Kahn when it was on TV once. So everything was based on whatever random novels I could pick up secondhand. I had the novelisations of the Animated Series (by Alan Dean Foster) and desperately wanted the Original Series novelisations that you mention, but never managed to get hold of them. So strange to discover, many decades later, that the coveted item wasn't even all that faithful to the show :D

Date: 16 June 2026 13:13 (UTC)
trepkos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trepkos
Okay, I would have accepted the Blish version as better.
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