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パーソイド導入（抜書き）

ドイツ語版、日本語版、ロシア語版

（German, Japanese, Russian）
〈訳注＝結論を前、説明を後に組み直しました。〉

たった今（2024-11-27時点）、日本語版ウィキボヤージュに展開できました。したがって（LanguageConverterの問題により）中国語版（zh）を除く全言語版のウィキボヤージュは閲覧表示に新しいParsoidパーサを使用する状態になりました。 \o/ Cscott (talk) 2024-11-27T22:40 (UTC)

〈移動部分はここまで。〉

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皆さん、こんにちは、パーソイド閲覧表示（Parsoid Read Views）に関する当チームの作業の一環として、近々、ウィキボヤージュも表記の言語版でもパーソイド（Parsoid）を既定として閲覧表示に用います。この実験的な機能を展開し、フィードバックを収集する当チームの自信を裏付ける根拠は次のとおりです。

今週（訳注：2024-11-27時点）、ドイツ語とロシア語のウィキボヤージュで有効にする予定です。日本語版ウィキボヤージュは今週、または2025年1月上旬に実施します。

これは、閲覧表示にParsoidを使用するウィキの数を増やすため、継続して実験する機会でもあります。

もしも皆さんのワークフローを混乱させた場合は、Extension:ParserMigrationのページに記載されたように、個人設定でレ点を外すか、ツールのサブメニューを操作しているページならParsoidをオフにできます。

バグや問題の報告には、既知の問題 の説明文を参照してください。新しいバグを見つけた場合は、Phabricator でチケットを作成し、Phabricatorの Content Transform チームにタグ付けしてください。

展開戦略に関する詳細情報もご用意しました。

ではよろしくお願いします。

コンテンツ・トランスフォーメーション・チームを代表して　C. Scott Ananian

CAnanian (WMF) (talk) 2024-11-27T04:27, 27 (UTC)

• 誤字修正 --Omotecho (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2025 (UTC) / --Omotecho (talk) 19:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikivoyages need to stop using Kartographer cross-loading content from WMCS

Per this thread on en.wv's Pub, this is a cross-Wikivoyage issue. I am raising it here for visibility to all Wikivoyage editions, but I don't know how active any coordinating conversation will really be here. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:40, 26 May 2026 (UTC)

That means markers and listings will be unavailable, right? Unless there is an alternative solution, this would be disruptive for Wikivoyages. Are there any plans to implement a feature similar to the group attribute? Or should we prepare a huge Mapframe containing all the markers in the article? @Jdforrester (WMF) Tmv (talk) 02:32, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Tmv: Yes, that's my question. The Wikivoyage community has had this pending for a decade now; I'm asking if anyone is co-ordinating the idea of implementing the feature. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 16:17, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Jdforrester (WMF) Hmm, I haven't seen any discussion on this migration.

@RolandUnger, do you know anything about this? And do you have any ideas on how we should handle the migration? Tmv (talk) 17:02, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure there's not. This thread is my feeble attempt. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:35, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

@Tmv: I do not know anything about this. And as I wrote elsewhere I however understand that the Wikivoyage feature is not available in the Incubator because it would function not only for Wikivoyage but also for all other non-Wikivoyage sub-wikis. --RolandUnger (talk) 06:32, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

To be honest, I can't recall any previous conversations about it. The cause of the problem is also not very clear. Wherein is Toolforge used? What prevents such a usage? We can't approach the solution of the problem before we actually understand it.

My general understanding is that one has to group individual points from a Wikivoyage article for displaying them on a map. This grouping can happen externally (as it is done now? but this is only my guess...), within Kartographer, or through some module/JS-script in Wikivoyage. Are the developers saying that the Wikivoyage-based solution is the only option now? Are we explicitly advised to go for such a solution, regardless of any potential issues with page loading that it may cause? This is not very clear either. --Alexander (talk) 09:50, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

@Dereckson, @Yurik Do you have any comments on this. Adithyak1997 (talk) 21:11, 13 June 2026 (UTC)