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Latest comment: 7 days ago by Saighneánach in topic Ó Searcaigh's R vs r

A little help restoring deleted info

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Hello, So I had added some thoroughly cited information to a few language pages while editing admittedly as a sock, and now I am currently blocked. And as a result a couple users had hounded my account and edits, and sadly removed all of the info that I added to the following pages. Could you possibly restore the info I added to the pages at least? I truly want to display this cited info for the public, at least. I am doing this for the viewers, and the readers, and especially indigenous peoples trying to learn their forgotten tongue. I also deeply care about the rights of indigenous peoples across the world, and this is why that info was added. The following pages and their revisions are listed here to undo.

Warrwa lanugage; Ngadjuri language; Arutani language; Gkuthaarn language; Mbara-Yanga language; Yanda language; Yalarnnga language

If you could undo all of these deletions, that would be incredibly helpful. Thanks Fdom5997 (talk) 03:02, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

please see #Blocked for sockpuppetry. Thanks, LuniZunie (talk) 03:06, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
@LuniZunie Stop hounding me, or this won't go well. Fdom5997 (talk) 03:08, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Block evasion

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Please extend the blocking time of AleksiB 1945's alt IPs like ~2026-10187-71 ~2026-10187-71 (talk) 09:06, 15 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Old Irish quotations

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I've been wondering why you're moving them to separate pages. Are you moving all of them or just some? What's your rationale? —Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 00:44, 1 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Caoimhin ceallach: A while back there was a vote abolishing ====Quotations==== as a subheader, so all quotations have to be either inline directly under the definition or else on a separate page. Since putting quotations inline directly under the definition effectively renders them invisible to most users, putting them on a separate page is the only way people will know they exist. —Mahāgaja · talk 09:05, 1 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'm not sure I agree that you're making them more visible that way. (My first thought was that you're moving quotations you considered less relevant to the entry.) All you had to do was click on the quotations button and you could see all the information you wanted to see together on one page. Now the quotations are isolated on a separate page. —Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 10:09, 1 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
As long as the {{see citations}} tag is there, people will know where to find them. Experienced users know how to reveal quotations with the quotations button, but newbies don't. And sometimes Javascript doesn't work properly, and then all collapsed info on the page (not just the quotations) is completely invisible. —Mahāgaja · talk 10:20, 1 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Redirects from varia

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Hello :) hope you are fine. My health is not good, but I would like to edit more. But since Medieval Greek was turned down twice and thrice, I got so sad at en.wikt. Just curious, seeing this redirect from 2021 Did you make it on purpose? Were more like this intended? Thank you. ‑‑Sarri.greek  I 14:56, 26 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Sarri.greek: I'm sorry you haven't been well. I used to make redirects from forms with the grave accent to forms with the acute on a regular basis, but they're no longer necessary, because now linking a form labeled "grc" with the grave accent automatically takes you to the form with the acute accent. So while a bare link like [[αὐτὼ]] still takes advantage of the redirect, a form using a template, like {{l|grc|αὐτὼ}} takes you there directly without going through the redirect: αὐτὼ (autṑ). —Mahāgaja · talk 15:01, 26 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
I see. At el.wikt we cannot have this automatic feature. But is not the number of these infinite? What we do with one page, must we not do with all? I was about to scorn an editor for creating one such wikt:el:αὐτὼ, and then, I saw your name at History of the English page. Of course, I cannot delete his page now... :) ‑‑Sarri.greek  I 15:21, 26 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Not literally infinite, but certainly very large. Doing it automatically is definitely preferable. —Mahāgaja · talk 15:52, 26 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

time-night

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Hello Mahagaja,

Any idea what the word "time-night" means or even if it means anything? Are you able to come up with any cites on your end?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:time-night

It was originally inputted under the "derived terms" section of time many moons ago. Also, it appears on a list of red-links of the page of the late Robert Ullman: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Robert_Ullmann/Oldest_redlinks#time-ball.

Thank you. box16 (talk) 20:49, 2 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I've never heard the expression. —Mahāgaja · talk 20:52, 2 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the prompt response. box16 (talk) 20:52, 2 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Box16: see the RFD nomination of type shit. It looks to me like [...] time + nights. Looking at the cites: " for some time nights" could be paraphrased as "for some time, working the night shift". Likewise, "during which you spent your time nights when here at Blomstrom's house" could be paraphrased as: "you spent your time in the evenings at Blomstrom's house when you were here". Again: "I don't know if he spent any of his time nights culturing coffee" could be "I don't know if he spent any of his time at night on culturing coffee". Finally: "I had questioned him where he was spending his time nights when he would be away" could be "I had questioned him where he was spending his time when he would be away in the evening". A whole lot of nothing... Chuck Entz (talk) 21:22, 2 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the follow up. The only reason I keep revisiting this term is because it was listed in the redlinks of the late, great Robert Ullmann. He seemed like a very erudite and knowledgeable fellow. Did you by chance ever interact with him? box16 (talk) 05:12, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Quick question about hʼer

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I made this entry to fill out a variation of her, and now I'm wondering if the form of apostrophe is obligate. Should this be at h'er? Should that title redirect here? Would it be an alternative spelling of hʼer? bd2412 T 04:32, 10 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@BD2412: I wondered that too, but I don't know anything about Megleno-Romanian, nor could I find anything at Wikipedia. Basically, if it's functioning as a letter, it should be the modifier letter ʼ (which is what it currently is), but if it's functioning as punctuation (e.g. indicating elision of a letter) it should be the straight apostrophe '. I think the general practice at Wiktionary is to use only those two, and not use the curly apostrophe in page names at all. —Mahāgaja · talk 14:50, 10 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
I will leave it as is, then, and eventually someone more expert than ourselves will either fix or verify it. bd2412 T 20:49, 10 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Ó Searcaigh's R vs r

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I may very well be wrong but, from my interpretation of pages 97-99, it looks like he’s using r for a weak tap and R for a strong trill?

I was looking for different uses of /rˠ/ and /rʲ/ (as they are usually typos) using this insource search, since I remember seeing an /rʲ/ sourced with Ó Searcaigh pop up in the maintenance category a bit ago and forgot to check it out. From that search, the words with this source which I was going to change are dord, dornán, and fear foirne (all p10) as they are transcribed with r which looked like /ɾˠ/ to me. I haven’t read the whole book so idk if I’m missing something. Saighneánach (talk) 17:34, 12 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Saighneánach: Oh, you're right, sorry! He does indeed use "r" meaning /ɾˠ/ in those words. —Mahāgaja · talk 17:45, 12 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
No problem. I was going to say I'd correct them now but you beat me to it, thank you. Saighneánach (talk) 18:04, 12 May 2026 (UTC)Reply