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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:35, 17 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Side has been relegated from top division, local consensus has been to old have squad boxes for top division sides. If promoted template can be re-created. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:24, 1 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 19:46, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:34, 17 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Side has been wound up and will no longer compete, so a current squad template is no longer required. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:17, 1 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 19:46, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as a soft deletion. Editors can request the template's undeletion for any reason. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 19:01, 17 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Not widely used and just a single layer wrapper for basically just Template:Korean. Just adds syntax for little gain; most pages use the Korean template and that's what most will be familiar with. grapesurgeon (talk) 13:28, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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Propose merging Template:Infobox heat event with Template:Infobox weather event.
Should create a new sub-template for weather event that would allow for a heat event. This definitely qualifies as a weather event. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:56, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. No, they are different. ~2026-38663-27 (talk) 06:21, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. They are completely different I'd say. Ieditarticles (talk) 09:03, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose and speedy close per above, and this shouldn’t really be a discussion. Not to mention the merge text now incorrectly appears on all hurricane/tornado/flood articles which looks unflattering. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 12:35, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
That is how TFM discussions work... And his shouldn’t really be a discussion? I get that you have a different opinion, but heat events ARE a type of whether event. Saying that this shouldn't even be discussed is absurd. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 15:03, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Heat isn't just about weather... it can refer to any type of heat. But generally saying, i still oppose the merge XxNick118xX (talk) 18:49, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
speedy close
@MarioProtIV Which WP:SK criterion does this discussion meet, in your opinion? FaviFake (talk) 10:26, 11 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. They are different. Sheldonville (talk) 13:10, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - theres no good reason to actually merge this ZonResearcher (talk) 13:16, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
oppose and speedy close per everyone else's replies here ArcherAndVance (talk) 13:43, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- I see no reason why heat events should be treated differently than, say, storms or other large scale weather events. As proposed, a sub-template would need to be created, but that sounds like a perfectly reasonable solution to me. Renerpho (talk) 15:04, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
See, this is something that I oppose, but not on the grounds that others would say about how "these two are different". When I initially built {{Infobox weather event}}, it was made to cater to tropical cyclones which had an incredibly out-of-date infobox format. This scope expanded to other events that cyclones had a similarity to, i.e. practically anything that involves the fast movement of wind. The reasoning for this is because there's a lot of similarities in how these events play out: a weather system forms, it does something, it dissipates. We also have a bunch of different "authoritative" sources whose info would usually fit in the infobox, hence why it's built to be modular. A few years back, heat index labels got added onto Module:Storm categories, which this template uses, so it implies that the weather event infobox should also cover heatwaves. However, I've never been a fan of having heat indexes (nor solar storms?) be included in the scope of that module, nor this infobox. I don't think heat events should be under the scope of this infobox (despite its name) as it greatly increases the complexity and scope of the infobox, and we should ideally keep it split from {{Infobox heat event}}. No prejudice, of course, to having both templates actively maintained as part of WPWX. Chlod (say hi!) 16:55, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
This is also why I thought we shouldn't have {{Infobox weather event}} also replace {{Infobox flood}}, back when it existed, because floods aren't normally something that have "max winds" or similar). Chlod (say hi!) 16:59, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
But the weather consists of more than just wind. There's temperature, too. If infobox weather event is only supposed to cover storms then it is very badly named. Renerpho (talk) 22:34, 9 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I don't see a reason why heat events can't be added to {{Infobox weather event}}. // Kakan spelar (talk) 17:07, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I heavily disagree about it being merged as severe weather and heat are 2 different phenomena as a whole. XxNick118xX (talk) 18:52, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
also disagree. ~2026-38700-01 (talk) 02:47, 9 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I know heat is a part of weather as I have been watching the weather around the world for a long time by now and I can say that this wouldn't be a good idea. Even though heat waves are a part of weather they are very different to other types of weather. This would be like merging the winter storm infobox with the heat event infobox because they are both weather. Hurricane Jacob (talk) 20:11, 10 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This TFD has shown that we have to ask ourselves the question, what fields would we want the infobox heat event to cover that the infobox weather doesn't already or can't be easily manipulated to cover? I would imagine that the infobox would cover stuff like the duration of the heatwave/hot weather/drought, areas impacted, deaths and damages attributed to the heat. When I look at how the heat event infobox is deployed at the moment, the only additional parameters I am seeing are highest_temp_c, highest_temp_location, and highest_temp_date. As a result, I don't see why the infobox couldn't be merged, assuming those parameters were added on.Jason Rees (talk) 09:19, 11 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Heat waves are indeed a type of weather event. It would be easier to maintain these templates if we merged them. FaviFake (talk) 10:27, 11 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yall please stop trying to merge stuff into this infobox, its incredibly annoying to have the "‹ The template Infobox weather event is being considered for merging. ›" text pop up over every. single. infobox. Lightbulb Noob (talk) 05:28, 14 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
This concern is not relevant to the discussion, you have a general concern with how notices about discussions are displayed. Take that concern up in a more appropriate venue, not here. grapesurgeon (talk) 12:55, 14 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Then where do I go? Because its hella annoying. Lightbulb Noob (talk) 13:19, 14 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I would try Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion. // Kakan spelar (talk) 13:21, 14 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Hurricane Jacob, Sheldonville, ZonResearcher, XxNick118xX, MarioProtIV, and ArcherAndVance: Note for all those opposing this by saying that a heat wave is not a form of weather... I would point to the Wikipedia article for Heat wave (which is indisputably the same as a heat event) which states in the first sentence: A heat wave or heatwave, sometimes described as extreme heat, is a period of abnormally hot weather (emphasis added). SO this idea that a heat event is completely different from a weather event simply holds no water at all. Now if your opinion is that for some reason it is better to keep the template separate, that is totally valid and I would love to hear more as to why they should be separate. I'm open to being convinced on that. But saying that they are completely different things and that this TFD should be speedy close[d] because you don't think heat and weather are related makes no sense at all. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:34, 16 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - i dont usually come to reply to stuff like these, but where did i say heat waves weren’t a weather event? please don’t mention me because i never said this at all :u ZonResearcher (talk) 04:40, 16 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@ZonResearcher: Apologies. I did NOT mean to put words in your mouth. Multiple people HAVE said that weather and heat are unrelated. I (incorrectly) interpreted your !vote above of theres no good reason to actually merge this to mean that you were agreeing with the previous comments that weather and heat were completely different. Apologies if it seemed like I was trying to put words in your mouth. Not my intent. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:28, 16 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
since when did i ever say heat was never weather... what i mainly said was... i opposed the merge due to the fact they are entirely different things and like one person that said something in here: The infobox was originally made for "tropical cyclones" and not heat so there for... actually put your time into reading it before you actually make assumption XxNick118xX (talk) 17:40, 16 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
dude i literally changed my vote already 🥀 rowanthey/themcontribs 20:24, 16 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
As I said "Oppose I know heat is a part of weather as I have been watching the weather around the world for a long time by now and I can say that this wouldn't be a good idea. Even though heat waves are a part of weather they are very different to other types of weather. This would be like merging the winter storm infobox with the heat event infobox because they are both weather." I didn't say "Heat waves aren't a part of weather" Also adding heat waves into the weather event infobox would be like combining heat and cold. I know heat and cold are parts of weather but they are different from each other. Hurricane Jacob (talk) 00:37, 17 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Please add close template! ~2026-40284-96 (talk) 09:48, 18 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Support Because heat events are types of weather events, an infobox for heat events can belong in an infobox for weather events. I don't see how merging these two would cause substantial problems. BlueForce87 (talk) 06:19, 21 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2026 July 20. * Pppery * in solidarity 22:39, 20 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:14, 15 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

All the links are also in Template:United Kingdom in the European Union and that template is already used on the pages Dajasj (talk) 04:01, 8 July 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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