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| On 23 August 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to Czar. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Copyright violation
[edit]User:Bulgarian.chad, I don't understand why the painting about Tsar Simeon by a famous artist as Alfons Mucha, which has been here for years, is removed from the article and replaced with an obviously copyright-infringed painting by a modern artist who almost is not known outside of Bulgaria. Please clarify this matter. Thanks.Jingiby (talk) 03:04, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 23 August 2025
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:SNOW close. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 05:12, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Tsar → Czar – It turns out that czar is used more commonly in articles outside of this wiki. It is spelled that way more often, and czar should be used in this article instead of tsar. 12.239.139.230 (talk) 01:29, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. The spelling "czar" has no longer been dominant for at least several decades. See for example Ngram. Mellk (talk) 11:31, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per Mellk—blindlynx 20:54, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose move for lack of evidence. O.N.R. (talk) 22:59, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. — Sadko (words are wind) 23:26, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. In addition to evidence above, Garner's Modern English Usage (5 ed., 2022) notes that tsar is preferred and is more common when referring to pre-1917 Russian emperors and by Slavic scholars generally, while czar is more common in extended meanings like drug czar. Fowler’s Dictionary of Modern English Usage (4 ed., 2015) states:
The spelling tsar (which is closer to the Russian form) is more common in most varieties of English, particularly BrE, than czar, which is preferred in North American English.
Several dictionaries do indicate czar is preferred in American English. However, this Ngram shows a preference for tsar in AmE going back decades. Tsar has more hits on Google Scholar and Jstor, though both have many. Guidance and usage vary but there is no evidence to support the nom's assertion, and plenty of evidence that both are acceptable or that tsar is preferred. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:37, 23 August 2025 (UTC) - Oppose. It absolutely isn't. "Czar" often does seem to be more common in American useage, but definitely not elsewhere. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:24, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Opening
[edit]In my opinion I think it is best if we refer to it as a "Slavic title" rather than a "title historically used by some Slavic monarchs". We already mention later in the lead that it was an official title in three countries, plus "Slavic monarchs" is a bit vague. Mellk (talk) 05:32, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]Pronunciation is entirely incorrect. There is an article Czar (political term) where this misspelling might have some relevancy, but for this article it's wrong . Elk Salmon (talk) 11:23, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
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