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Showing posts with label Disappeared Farms. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Disappeared Farms. Show all posts

Saturday, 26 October 2013

Silver Hill Farm

I thought I may have finally tracked down a photo of Silver Hill Farm but according to The History of Hyde, Silver Hill Farm was long gone when the book was written, so, I assume this photo just shows part of the Silver Hill House estate. :(


This was taken in 1933. 

It looks like the estate was slowly disappearing around this time as the new houses were being built around it.



Silver Hill Farm was located off Stockport Road, the entrance being opposite the Zion Church.

I was always interested in finding out more about it, although long gone, as the house where I was brought up was built on the Orchard of the farm.
Up until finding this picture, I had only ever seen the gate posts of the farm which were on a photo which has been previously shown on the blog.

There is still a house called Silver Hill on Stockport Road (middle left). This was a children's nursery school when I was growing up in the 1960's.


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( I will add more history to the post when I can access it ).


Added by Maloney. :)

Jottings-Silver Hill, Gee Cross, Hyde. Saturday, April 13th 1867: The freehold known as Smithy Fold Farm, about a mile from Hyde Railway Station, comprising of dwelling house called Silver Hill, with entrance and lodge and outbuildings, and a quantity of meadow and farmland was sold by auction. On Tuesday, February 17, 1874: The saleLivestock farm emplements etc, took place at Whittaker's Stonepit, Silver Hill, Gee Cross. Auctioner was Thomas Acton. On Wednesday, 22 June, 1881, at the Norfol Arms, Hyde. All the Mansion House known as Silver Hill Estate, situated near Stockport Road, Gee Cross, then occupied by Charles Hibbert Esq, was sold by aution. The land was freehold, free from chief rents and contained 2,824 superficial square yards. On Wednesday evening, 3 August, 1899, at the Mechanics Institute, by order of the exec of the will of the late Peter Green-aformer Mayor of Hyde, the Silver Hill Estate was purchased for £3,620 by Miss Smith, one of the representatives of the on Silver Hill Farm


Many Thanks, Maloney .
Much appreciated.

Monday, 19 August 2013

Hyde Hall Farm

Engraving of the Hyde estate from 1794

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A work entitled " Cheshire ; Topographical, Historical, and Descriptive," published so late as 1818, describes the scene as follows :

" Hyde Hall, the seat of Geo. Hyde Clark, Esq., a branch of the Clarendon family, is situated in a romantic spot on the banks of a small river, and surrounded with bold swelling eminences gradually sloping to the water's edge. The house is an ancient brick edifice, repaired, with a plain front. It contains several good paintings and among others an original whole length of the great Earl of Clarendon. At a little distance from the house is a neat bridge of one arch, built a few years since for the accommodation of those who frequent the valuable coal mines that are worked on this estate, which includes both sides of the Tame. A weir on the Lancashire side, formed to supply a water engine, causes the river above it to assume the appearance of a large lake, which with the cascade produced by the falling of the waters in a broad sheet to a considerable depth, adds great interest to the surrounding scenery. The grounds are tolerably well wooded and the general character of the seat is picturesque and elegant."


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 Such a good quality picture I have been able to crop certain parts to show the detail in all it's glory. 

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Little of the authentic character can be seen respecting the early history of Hyde Hall. Like most other manor houses in the vicinity it was evidently the successor of an earlier structure built upon the same site. Old chronicles show the family of Hydes to have been settled here from a very early date, and it is only reasonable to suppose that they dwelt in a house suitable to their rank and position. There are traditions which claim that one Lord Matthew de Hyde erected a castle in these parts as far back as the 12th century.

Thomas Middleton wrote "The hall appears to have been built in the reign of Queen Elizabeth, and to have been re-built about the time of the Restoration. It continued to be the residence of the manorial lords of Hyde, until it was disposed of to the Fultons, of Fulton, in Lancashire. It was demolished in the year 1857."

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It is said that the lords of the manor of Hyde lived here in the fine old English style, dispersing their hospitality in a regal manner, holding "brilliant entertainments " and " courtly " family gatherings. It is also a popular rumour that Queen Anne first saw light in Hyde Hall, and it is claimed as a fact that the two princesses of James Hyde, frequently came down to the hall, on long visits to their relatives at Hyde.

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On the left is the Corn Mill, which looks to have had 3 water wheels.

Butterworth, the historian, worte:
 "Betwixt the bridge and the house is a mill for grinding corn, for the use of which is a weir which throws a broad sheet of water to a considerable depth below, where it has worked a hole many yards deep and wide ; the appearance and noise of this cascade have a romantic effect  and the river below, for half a mile, is made to appear like a lake, forming a fine piece of water well stocked with trout and eels. On each side of the river downwards from the gardens, are high banks well wooded, in which the river is lost for some space and then seen again."

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Two hundred years ago, Longhorns were the most popular cattle in Cheshire. In the early eighteenth century, the ideas of Jethro Tull and Charles "Turnip" Townshend were increasing crop yields and introducing root crops for winter fodder. Once farmers could overwinter their cattle, instead of having to slaughter most of them in the autumn, they experimented with selective breeding to improve their stock

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Around 1793, George Hyde Clarke built Clarke's Bridge over the river Tame at the bottom of Mill Lane This original bridge with its single arch suffered  seriously damaged, by the great flood of 17 August 1799. A record of the flood is still kept in the Tame Valley at Gibraltar, a large stone showing the flood mark taken from the waterside of the old Gib Mill which states the following  "Flood Mark, August 17th, 1799," The present bridge on Mill Lane was built in 1895. 

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How the area look in 1935

Tuesday, 2 April 2013

Westwood Farm part 2

THE SECRET OF MACCLESFIELD FOREST
 
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The New Inn Circa 1910



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Monday, 1 April 2013

Westwood Farm part 1.

The following information post was sent to us by David Hamilton.
Much of it I was unaware of so a special thank you from me :)

Over to David....

I have been reading with interest the post by Rodger V Chadwick (22-3-2013), and the post about Tommy Sowter (27-3-2013), with the references to the V1 explosion at Westwood Farm, and the German bomber coming down near St Mary's.
The V1 was a winged pilotless aircraft carrying a warhead,powered by a pulse jet engine. This weapon was normally launched from a ramp by catapult, but the 31  V1's that landed in the North of England , aimed at Manchester early on Christmas eve 1944 were air launched over the north sea to give extra range.

The article about Westwood Farm, and the map of V1 impacts, are taken from the book "Flying Bombs Over The Pennines" (1988) by Peter J.C. Smith.
The pictures of Westwood Farm before and after, appear both in this publication and also "Air Launched Doodlebugs, The Forgotten Campaign"(2006) by the same author.



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Westwood Farm Before


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Westwood Farm After.

 I have also included a photo that I took a few years ago of the V1 crater on Midhope Moor.  This weapon was part of the same attack, and fell short of the target area.

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The crater, numbered 24 on the map, is 15 metres in diameter
The Westwood Farm V1 is numbered 6 on the map.


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My grandparents lived on St Mary's Road, and I can remember them telling me about a German plane coming down in fields behind the church. The area was quite accessible and so the wreckage would have been easy to clear.  This, and the fact that intelligence officers would go over every inch of an enemy aircraft, meant that the clear up would have been thorough. I think that the area has been built over now.
If the aircraft was attacked by a Hurricane, it would most likely have been from Cranage (Byley).

I hope that some of this is of interest to you.


Thanks so much , David.
Great post indeed !
BERJAYA

Friday, 1 March 2013

Hoviley farm

Below is an excerpt taken from Thomas Middletons'
"History of Hyde".

It talks of Hoviley Farm, which I once believed to be the buildings on the map below marked by a cross and next to plot number 59.
I have recently been told it was at the opposite end of Hoviley Brow so am now looking for clarification on where it was located.

I have never come across any more information or photographs of this farm. If anyone knows anything about it please dont hesitate to get in touch with us at hydonian@gmail.com and we will add the info to this post!

Thank you !

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Sunday, 20 January 2013

Fernbank Farm View

A few days ago we posted a couple of photos of the demolition of Fernbank Farm .
Here is the stone from the farm and a rather nice view of it from across "Buttercup Meadow" taken in the late 1970's/early 1980's.

The farm is the building in the middle of the photo on the left of the big tree !

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I'm happy to say that the stone is still in the vicinity of the farm, in a neighbours garden !!

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Also on the photo is Oxford House which is on the left of the photo and Oxford Road which is the row of houses on the right.

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Map showing Fernbank Farm in 1875

The Tithe map from 1836-51 shows that the area where the farm stood was owned by John Boardman and was known as "Fern Hill". The field itself was known as "Thistly Field and Old Meadow" !

Map courtesy of cheshire maps.

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Sunday, 13 January 2013

After the demolition of Fernbank Farm

Fernbank Farm or "Raymonds" Farm (after Raymond Martin who owned it) was demolished around ten years ago. 

I, for one, was sad to see it go even though it was in a bad state of repair for the last few years of its life.
It was great to see Raymonds prize winning chickens running free around the farmyard and all the wild cats who lived in harmony with Raymond.


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The row of houses on the right hand side are on Stockport Road.

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A sad site that the pile of bricks were all that remained of Fernbank Farm.

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Fernbank Court was built in its place by Loxley Homes..
The houses were opened for occupation in 2004.

Wednesday, 26 December 2012

Smithy Fold Farm

 The following snippet comes from the History of Hyde by Thomas Middleton.

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Urian Legh (1566–1627) was knighted for his services in taking Cadiz in 1596. 
He was High Sheriff of Cheshire in 1613.

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A map from 1831-56 showing the site of Smithy Fold Farm.

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By 1875 the farm had gone and Fern Bank Farm stood nearby.

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Modern map showing the area where Smithy Fold Farm stood.

Maps courtesy of Cheshire.gov.uk

Sunday, 23 December 2012

The Chadwick Family



Following on from thursday post about the Chadwick Family, here is Peter Howard with some more information and great photos.... 
"Joseph Chadwick senior lived at 69 Nelson St, Joseph Edward Chadwick (my grandfather) lived at 69, and my father lived at 115.
My mother's sister, Ethel Chadwick, married John Finch. They lived on Travis St and had a sweet shop about half way down. In later years she worked at Byles".

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Joseph Chadwick Senior and his second wife, Eliza Jane Sellers. Her family lived at 24 Nelson St
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Chadwicks cart outside St George's Church, Hyde in 1920


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The same horse outside 69 Nelson St. The house had a yard at the back where the carts and horses were kept.  The man holding the horse was Jack Braddock of Queen St.




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Joseph, Rebecca and family. my mother Edith Chadwick (b.1903) is on Rebeccas knee, the other girl is Jane Chadwick, brother is Walter Chadwick (b.1890). The older girl is their niece, Fanny Pearson. Her parents died and they brought her up as their own. I remember visiting Aunty Fanny often. A very kind lady, as was Aunty Jane.

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This must have been taken about 1904/5

 Joseph Edward & Cart. Joseph Edward Chadwick holding the 'horse' in Great Norbury Street. On the card is Joseph Chadwick senior, Edith (my mother) the child on the left, Jane on the right with Walter Chadwick aged about 14. 

"From what I have learned, Robert Middleton moved originally to Gee Cross - Werneth Low about 1820, then by 1840 lived at Acorn Lane, before moving to Fern Bank Farm. His son Joseph Middleton lived at Closes Farm in Godley where Rebecca (my grandmother) was born".

Once again, Peter, thanks so much for the photos and information. It's much appreciated that you took the time and trouble to send them to us !

Friday, 21 December 2012

Joseph Chadwick

This photo and account has been sent to us by Peter Howard...
Over to Peter...

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"The gentleman driving the coach is my great grandfather Joseph Chadwick (1844-1913). He was born in Compstall as his father was an overlooker of weavers in the mill there. His father William Chadwick was born in Newton where the many of the family can be traced through the censuses.
 
Joseph senior married and his family grew up in Hyde, during the cotton famine they went to America for a few years but returned to Hyde where he bought 3 houses in the newly built Nelson Street.
His son, Joseph (junior) Edward Chadwick (1875-1947) was born in the USA but brought up in Nelson Street. The family were coal carters and furniture removers. The Hearts of Oak business used to run excursions as can be seen, I guess the photo was taken just before 1900 or so.
 
Joseph Edward (my grandfather) married Rebecca Middleton in 1897. She was a member of the Middleton family that descended from Eyam in Derbyshire during the plague  of 1664/5. Like the old Mayor of Hyde Thomas Middleton. Although not immediately related , her branch was traced through the writings and research of Thomas Middleton. Rebecca's grandfather came to Hyde from Eyam around 1820 where he had Fern Bank Farm at Gee Cross.
 
My mother, Edith Chadwick, was born in Nelson Street and my father lived there also. They met as they both worked in 'North's Mill'
 
My Chadwicks can be traced to the late 1700's in Newton and were from a family connected to Mottram church. There being many Chadwicks in the Mottram, Godley and Newton area I cannot find the true origins, this is work in progress."
 
 
A very interesting account !
Many thanks, Peter. 
Your sharing is much appreciated :)

Saturday, 24 November 2012

Green End Farm

The following description comes from the History Of Hyde.
I don't know of any photos that exist of this farm.

"Green End Farm, a picturesque old place, stood in Grafton Street, and part of it's land sloped steeply into Wilson Brook...."

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Tithe map from 1836-51 showing it's location

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Modern map


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A 1970's aeriel view shows the area the farm stood in to the top right. George Street runs along the bottom whilst Newton Street (pre motorway) goes from top to bottom.


Thanks to Cheshire Archives for the maps.

Friday, 9 November 2012

Memories of Old Newton.

Here is an email we received from Linda who sends us some memories of her time in Newton ..

"Hi,  
Your blog is really interesting  to me as I was born in Newton though no longer live in the area. Harbour Farm was still standing in the early 60s and  it stood on the land opposite Leigh Fold  the second map on the blog shows five buildings – these were flats in two story buildings which were built in the 60s.
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I can remember the farm being pulled down and the roof timbers being burnt as I walked past there on the way to school at Oakfield Primary. The new school was built to replace St Mary’s School on Talbot Road.   

There was a shortcut down the left hand side of the farm into Fir Tree Drive or “Debtors Retreat” as it was known when we moved there in 1963 to be near my grandmother who lived in a flat in Longfield Close.

Regards
 

Linda"

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Harbour farm.

Many thanks Linda. 
It's always lovely to hear peoples individuals memories of  Hyde and the surrounding areas.:) 

Friday, 6 July 2012

Happy Days...The Area called Kingston

There is an old expression which says "A picture paints a thousand words", but I think the opposite is also true that a thousand words paints a very good picture, particular in the case of Elsie Hawkins's description of what life was like in the Kingston area of Hyde back in the 1930's. The following was written in the 1990's (I think).

I was born in Frances Street, Hyde. We were bounded by the canal, gas works, Arley Mill, Millwood, sewage works, Smiths bone yard and the River Tame. Just over the bridge at the river Tame you come to Haughton Green and there we have Dan's Wood, Glass House Fold, Denton tip and Haughton Dale Rocks.
There were lots of children in our street so we were never at a loss for a playmate: what games we played, skipping, rounders, whip and top, bowl and hoop, statues, hop scotch, tick and ghosts. A favourite game was shop. We got some clay and made pies, cakes, sweets and even little coffins with a little clay baby inside. We had broken pot for money; if you had a piece with lovely colours or a nice pattern on , it was worth a shilling or sixpence depending on size. We also had concerts in our back yard. We were all budding ballet dancers. Admission was a piece of pot. It seems that we had glorious summers, and as we grew older we wandered further afield.
I will start at the area known as Kingston. At the canal where we fished for tiddlers, the bluebell wood near the cinder walk and the Bowker Brook, we took jam jars there to collect frog spawn, which we later took to school. Then there was the gas works where we could take a little barrow to buy some coke. It was put on the weigh bridge, then it was filled with coke and weighed again. We paid threepence or sixpence for it. We also went picking for coke. The Gas works were on Raglan Street and the carters always lost some of their load due to the cobbled roads. Arley Mill, off Raglan St and Alfred St was a cotton mill, and I can remember a big fire there. I think it was around 1930. Also in that area I remember a big chimney being demolished. Near by is Read St. Facing the terraced houses was a field called "Bob's field". This was a lovely romping ground and later it became a football pitch. It was the home ground for our local football team the "Kingston Star". Between Frances St West and Read St west was and still is the Bone works, it has now grown into a big concern. It never seemed to smell so much in those days, but the older people still remember all the bluebottles.
The sewage works on Mill Lane, I don't think caused many problems, but the crabapples from the trees gave you quite a tummy ache. Across the way we had Hyde Hall Farm, a nice little spot on the banks of the river. We used to watch the cowman or boy driving the cows to the shippon for milking and sometimes we could seethem being milked. I used to take a jug and get the milk straight from the dairy, and it was often warm.
Crossing Mill Lane Bridge over the Tame we came to the little hamlet called Glass House Fold or "Fowt". It's name comes from the the Flmish glass blowers who settled and worked there in the early 17th century. A Mr Burley Key from Haughton Green, local historian, was convinced that the fold was indeed a place for glass making. At the start of the council housing estate, Mr key was watching a new sewer being laid along the river valley. One morning he found a mass of glass and crucible fragments that had been deposited by the diggers. He informed Pilkington Glass Museum. They sent their curator who recognised the fragments as similar types to those found in the first glass house sites in the late 16th & 17th centuries. In august 1969 they made the first excavation. and in June 1970 they returned forthe second. A booklet was published by North West Museums and can be seen in Hyde Library.
In Dans Wood close by by Glass House Fold were some old mine shafts, a young boy and girl from the fold were playing in the wood when they fell down one of the mine shafts. From Middleton's "History of Hyde", the girl said " I put my pinny on the ground and we said our prayers. "I put my arms around Jacky and we went to sleep". They were found the next day and I think were brought up in a washing basket. I don't recall the date but the boy was called Jack Bowker (or Mason), he was brought up by his grandparents Mr & Mrs Bowker. The girl was called Sarah Leech.
Then there was Denton tip also on Mill Lane, but on the right hand side. We had to go through a May flower field and we came out with our feet wet through. It was on this tip that we found our "pot" money. I remenber the noise of the crickets on this tip. What a place to play, but we were happy panning for pottery. We must have got filthy, maybe thats why my friend Tarmar and I went swimming in the River Tame. Our swimming costumes were filthy with black oil, and we were a dreadful sight. We only did this once.
On we go up Mill Lane into the little village of Haughton Green. At the far end of the village there was a little common called Tommy Todd, complete with swings. The Francis Street gang would swoop on the common, enjoying ourselves, and then like a tribe of Indians, and noise enough to wake the dead in St Mary's churchyard, the kids from the green would charge, and if you knew what was good for you, you went, and we did.
Our next stop was Haughton Vale rocks, we would sit down and eat our jam butties and drink Woodhead pop, and have a lovely time. We made our way home via Ivy cottages and the Gibraltar Mill, along the side of the canal to Captain Clarke's bridge. Under the bridge the tow path switches from the left side to the right side of the Peak Forest canal, because the Lord of the Manor, George Hyde Clarke wanted to keep his estate free from intruders. We then would walk onto the canal bridge at Manchester Road, under the bridge where the towpath goes back to the left hand side. We passed the place where we fished for tiddlers, down the path known as Cinder Walk, where there was another brook, which I think came from Godley, it would sometimes be coloured so it must have come past the CPA and got some of the dyes in it. As we pass it, we would chant...

Jinny Jinny Greenteeth coming with a knife, run lads, run lads, run for your lives...

I really don't know why we did this. We came out near Manchester Road near the Wellington Inn on Kingston Brow.
Edward Clarke married the daughter of Phillip Haughton of Kingston in Jamaica, and the area reminded him of Jamaica, hence the name. Also a lot of the streets around the Market Place were called after members of the Hyde Clarke family. Frances St., Anne St., Edward St., Rochfort St., Mary St., Tanner St., Clarendon St., Hamnet St., John St etc etc.

Apart from a few houses, Frances St and Read St have been demolished and just a few houses exist on the left hand side of Mill Lane. Hyde Hall Farm has gone, as well as Glass House Fold. Along with those may flower field and Denton Tip.
As the song says " The song has ended but the memory's linger on" and what memories of a lovely, happy carefree and delightful childhood.


By Elsie Hawkins



Friday, 6 April 2012

More memories from Bill

More photos from Bill Crompton with descriptions.

"One with my Father on the said Hyde Hall Farm. You can see the gas holder behind. 1951/2 and one on Horseback.
There is also a colour photo of a group of Hyde lads on a night out I am sure they will be recognised,I am the one furthermost away. 1966
Another picture showing myself and a mate sat on some stone in Hyde park 1965.
The last one is of myself taking part on the whit walks, the 1950s on Great Norbury Street."

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As always, thanks to Bill for sharing.
Without your generosity there would be no Hyde blog :)

Sunday, 1 April 2012

Hyde Hall Farm

 As this blog relies largely on people's generosity in sharing memories and photos we are happy to show these which were sent to us by Annette Hetherington.
Also Annette has sent an appeal to her cousin Bill Crompton who she would dearly love to be back in contact with...

"Dear Nancy, Tom, Dave and Paul,
       Hyde Hall Farm used to stand at the bottom of Mill Lane. Our extended family all lived there with our grandparents Mary and Arthur Crompton until about 1958 when it was compulsorily purchased by the council and demolished to become a campsite for travellers. I am sure the children of the travellers will have had as great a time as we and the other local children did.


I was surprised and delighted to see that you had a contribution on your buses page on the 21st October from my cousin Bill Crompton (who also lived on the farm). My sister Carol and I have lost contact with Billy and would be delighted if you could pass on my email so that he can let us know where he is and what he's up to..." 


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Thanks so much for sharing your memories with us, Annette !

So Bill, if you're reading this and would like to drop us a line, we can pass Annettes email address onto you. :)