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Showing posts with label Market. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Market. Show all posts

Tuesday, 3 October 2017

Hyde Market in the 20's & 30's

I am well aware we have had a few posts on Hyde Market, but I am sure that another one will not go amiss at the time when the latest version is nearing completion.

This little story I obtained from the same source as the Kingston post, but unfortunately there is no author's name attached. It may well be Elsie Hawkins again but I cannot be certain. It describes the market from around the 1920's to the 1930's.

                                          The Market At Hyde

Hyde market was held on a Saturday years ago, just the one day and then in the 1930's we also had a Friday market day.

Through the week there was fruit and vegetable stalls which were permanent fixtures, a sort of cabin affair and the people that kept them were known to all, they never seemed to change.

At the corner, diagonally across from Woolworths was Riley's. They were wholesalers as well as retail greengrocers. They would sell off any fruit that would not keep over the weekend very cheaply, when it was closing time on Saturday night. Mostly it was large bunches of bananas or soft fruit in summer.

Round the corner to the left was Sinnett's and they took pride in selling the best greengrocery. To the right of Rileys was Hollands, who also had a shop on Mottram Road. There were others of course making about six altogether. There was a tripe stall here too.

The market itself was a great attraction. One could buy almost anything there and people came from all the towns around. It was bright and full of interest. 

The stalls were lit with lamps which the traders hired from a shop in Hamnett St, which faced the market.

A lot of traders would auction their goods and they had a patter which would keep people around their stalls.

Mrs Crossley the curtain lady had a shop facing the market. She sold curtains, coat and dress material of a very high standard. She would talk away for hours on her stall while selling her wares and there were lots of people around her stall just listening to her.

Goodwins had a pottery stall and if trade was slack they would suddenly drop a pile of pots to draw attention to themselves. Mr Goodwin had a stick which he used to thump a wooden box as he explained he was not going to charge this or even that but some ridiculously low figure. One would buy a twenty piece tea-set in the 1930's for three and eleven pence in old money (20p in new).
We would all listen to Harry Gilbert who sold watches and clocks, much cheaper than anyone could buy in the shops. They were reliable watches too, and many a Hyde person still has a Harry Gilbert watch. He later opened a jewellery shop next to the Bank of Scotland in Market St, which is now a tailors (Greenwoods).

There was quite a number of drapery stalls selling both men's and women's wear. I remember seeing "long johns" and "combinations" hanging up and of course socks and stockings, a pair of artificial silk stocking could be bought for ninepence (4p) before the war.

The flower stalls were lovely and colourful , very often they were just part of a greengrocery stall.

In the 1930's they started an innovation. They had a large zinc bath and washed the dirt off the celery before it was sold. I used to feel sorry for them on cold winter days. At the other end of the market was a pie and coffee stall 
Barlow's swings and Cookes roundabouts were also here as well. There was also a black pea saloon, but this finished sometime in the late 20's.
In 1927 an indoor market was built. It has since been demolished to make way for the new shopping precinct. I much preferred the old one to the new one. It was light and airy and had  all food stalls, mostly butchers, though Mr Lowe had his grocery stall in there. His son joined Mr Booth's son, the butcher to open the supermarket in Clarendon St.

Nightingales made Godley rock and home made sweets in the market. It was always fascinating to watch them cooking the sweets and pulling the rock on a hook on the side of the stall.
Near this building was a football net and men and boys would pay a few pennies to kick the ball into the net.


The street at the side of the market was Helen Street. If one approached it from Reynold St/Norbury St there was a very nice hotel called the Norfolk Arms. It was pulled down to make way for the new market as was all the property there. There was Meals pawnshop and then the 'Hyde cafe'.

A street ran at right angles here , then came to Ashworths butchers, then to a sweet shop, Cloughs confectioners, Britannic Assurance Co and above these shops Mr Searle had his photographic business. A lot of our old photographs of Hyde were taken by him. next we came to the shop that is still a shoe shop but it was originally Jacksons whose slogan was a Cheshire Cat. They also sold hats:-

"Jackets, hats and caps are fine, Three and six and four and nine".


Facing here in the premises occupied now by Woolworths was Brownsons the tailors. This is a stone building - rather nice. We always made sure we saw Brownsons big window at Christmas. They did a scene that occupied the whole of the window. I well remember Red Riding Hood visiting granny in a cotton wool snow scene. One January about 1926 we had terrible gales and the window was blown in. It was immediately boarded up and a large notice proclaimed "Our windows may not be able to withstand the elements, but our overcoats certainly will".
At the corner of the market near the junction of Market Place and Market Street, opposite Greenfield St, was the Finger Post, a large mastlike village pole with sign boards indicating the directions of the various roads.
Now , on that spot in my day stood a drinking fountain which was used as a meeting place. We would meet our friends from other parts of the town there. It was removed to the park some forty or fifty years ago. It would be nice if we could restore it & put it back on the market place.

The 1920's was the time when women shortened their skirts and cut their hair short so it was no surprise to hear of Dr Marie Stopes disciples speaking on the market of birth control and selling her controversial book "Married Love".

The market itself was much nicer in the old days before the "precinct" was built. We all congregated there on Whit Friday when we had walked in our own parishes. Our Mayor and Mayoress would be on the balcony of the Town Hall and all the banners would be propped up against the railings while we sang our old well loved traditional whitsuntide hymns.

On Sunday evenings the Labour party or Socialists would hold an open air meeting with the speaker standing on a low loader cart. They stopped when they managed to get a labour government together in the 1920's -- previously the candidates had either been Liberal or Conservatives, but this changed after the first world war.


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Post was originally posted July 2012

This was one of the many posts where the pictures are not showing up...  it is a long process but we are getting there.. in the meantime bare with us and all picture WILL be replaced eventually 

Tuesday, 28 July 2015

M. Hitchen's Cafe, Market Place


This post came about when I was contacted on Facebook by Alison Hayton, who's Great 'Nan' kept the cafe pictured below. Alison's Great Nan was Mary Ellen Hitchen who lived at 187 Lumn Road Hyde, Mary died in 1961 when she was aged 71.  She was the widow of Job Hitchen.  They were originally from York.


Alison's Grandad Bill Hitchen and his sister Jessie were the children of Mary and Job, Bill married his wife Ethel and lived at 39 Lumb Road.

Jessie was working as a Midwife whilst helping out at the cafe, she met her husband Les Chapman who apparently worked at the butcher’s near to the cafe. Alison was wondering about the name of the butchers shop.. and members of our Facebook group commented on a request for information and Walter Ashworth's Butchers was being mentioned, Paul Taylor confirmed this by checking a local trade directory which stated the said butchers address as 6a Market Place and the cafe  number as 10 Market Place.


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Alison has alway been pleased to see her Great Nan's cafe in the a painting by local artist Harry Rutherford

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Harry Rutherford's view of Hyde market was originally called Saturday Afternoon, but is now known as Northern Saturday. I have not been able to find out the reason behind the name change or who or when it changed. If you know please let me know. Date painted 1948, Oil on board. 24" x 29.5"

This pictures is described by many as his most famous, it was acquired by Hyde Corporation in 1948  
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Back to the cafe, again the cafe on show in this postcard, there's two chaps stood on the corner putting the world to right, and the shop that has the canopy down could well be 6a where Walter Ashworth traded as a butcher.

Harry's painting and this postcard are a glimpse  of a very busy market day, with many buildings any town would have been proud of, but alas now gone.

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Another of the market painted by Harry Rutherford, c1970 titled as The Square, Hyde. It is Oil on Canvas 15.5" x 19.5" owned by Tameside Council. A big difference in views.

Alison also sent in the picture below of a fairground speedway ride that was nearby her Great Nan's cafe on Hyde Market and can be seen on Harry Rutherford's Northern Saturday.

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This is how things can fall into place... just by chance a comment came into the blog on a different post showing rides on Hyde Market, The writer was Ross Jones, and his great interests are the fairs of the area.. in fact Ross tells me he intends to compile a book regarding the three Wake fairs or one covering all the Lancashire/Cheshire Fairs. I wish Ross all the best with this project and I'll put my name down now for a copy.
Back to Hibberts Speedway.. Ross tells me that Hibberts over wintered The Ark on Hyde Market and when it was acquired by E.L. Morley he built up quite a following among the local teenagers by playing record requests for them. Ross has many pictures of Hyde Wakes but the majority of them the copyright belongs elsewhere, and whilst he as never infringed on the copyright did receive dire warnings of the consequences for doing so when buying the photographs .   


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How's this for tieing in some of the information, The above picture shows another of Harry Rutherford's paintings of Hyde. This one is called The Red Caravan, and is from c1957, it is again oil on board and measures 12" by 17.5".

My mother whose maiden name was Eileen Collins daughter of John Collins known to all as Jack, told me a number of times later in her life that at one time her paternal grandparents, were from Irish travelling stock, and lived around Crook St or Crook Square in a Gypsy caravan, She also told me that part of the Collins fairground family were related in some way as well. The above picture could quite possibly be that caravan. The John Collins fairground family are still going and many folks will have rode on their Waltzers. Long before I found this information out I got to know John Collins junior and we instantly became good friends. I have not seen him since finding this information out so if you know John Junior let him know to look at this.

I'd like to thank everyone involved for their input in putting this post together, I do not think it would have been so interesting or informative if help from our H.C.Blog Facebook Group had not been freely given

Team work at it's very best, for this the first posting fed down from the Facebook group.


Tuesday, 16 July 2013

Marching Together.

I haven't got any information on this photo other than it appears to be of a Whit Walk in the late 1960's - early 1970's.
It shows a band marching past Hyde Town Hall but I have no idea who the band is.

Any info gratefully received.

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Tuesday, 18 December 2012

Aeriel View of New Market Square 1968

Here is another aeriel view of the Market and the new development in 1968.
The HSBC Bank is still very recognisable from this photo but many of the old shops have gone, amongst them the shoe shops and the butchers shop that were opposite Woolworths.
 Look how many market stalls there were then compared with todays market ! This was maybe because the old market hall was demolished and the new one wasn't ready? Does anyone know?
The old Methodist Church that stood on Norfolk street can be seen top left of the photo.
Parking was available where the DHSS building now stands (bottom right).

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Thanks to John Hopwood for the great photo !!
Much appreciated. :)

Saturday, 28 July 2012

Tranquil spot.

 With all the upheavel with the market being redeveloped, I just thought I'd show this shot which shows the Cenotaph on Werneth Low overlooking all the mayhem !
Such a place of tranquility !

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As Tufty Club said, if you're not from Hyde you might have trouble spotting it, so I've zoomed in :)

Sunday, 22 July 2012

The Fountain on Hyde Market

As most Hydonian will be aware, the market is in the middle of a revamp.
Here is a photo showing how the market looked in the 1970's - complete with fountain, stone built seating and planters.
The Town Hall can be seen in the background.

I have very fond memories of this market.

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Many thanks to Martin Leigh for the photograph .
Much appreciated, Martin !! :)

Monday, 14 March 2011

Market Day

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I love this view of the Market and Town Hall, I wonder what the chap has in that suit case... as he just come back to Hyde by way of the train station? I can recall Hyde market being so busy.. and a lot noisier as well... The market was the very heart of the town at one time... I hope it can survive the times we live in now and not fall by the wayside like Denton's. I cannot imagine Hyde Town Centre without a market.... or the 'Round-About'  can you?

Monday, 25 October 2010

Old Postcard series.

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Bottom Row in the 1906 Flood

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Hare and Hounds, Werneth Low 1900

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Mottram Old Road

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Hyde Market 1913